LATER on tomorrow, I’ll post the slightly longer, original article I wrote for this week’s Mail on Sunday. In the meantime, you can read the published version here.
UPDATE at 9.05 pm: Most of you who are interested enough will have already read the version at the MoS’s site, but. as promised, here’s the full, original, slightly longer version of the article:
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A PROMINENT Labour politician in Glasgow once told me of a family he knew, every member of which was claiming incapacity benefit. When one of the sons managed to get a job, he was pressured by the rest of the family into giving it up, since an adult in the household gaining employment put the family at risk of being deprived of other benefits, including council tax.
The benefits culture remains Glasgow’s shame, and it is not confined to my city; many other post-industrial areas of Britain suffer the same malaise of second and third generations of families being brought up to believe a life on benefits is acceptable.
It isn’t, as I said a few days ago on my blog. I was not just trying to make the point that young women’s lives are wasted by early pregnancy and a subsequent life dependent on benefits. I was also seeking to reverse what I see as a culture of tolerance, where we are now expected to accept everyone else’s choices without criticism or judgment, even when those choices have a negative effect on the wider community.
This has led us to a place where children are giving birth to children. There is no criticism of 16, 15 or even 14-year-old girls (and boys) who become parents. Yet why is it so difficult for us to admit that when a 14-year-old becomes pregnant, or gets his girlfriend pregnant, it is a personal tragedy and a social failure?
This is where politicians are completely out of step with the public. I have been taken aback by the number of people who have told me how relieved they are that I have come out and said what to most people has been blindingly obvious for years.
Politicians are not expected to talk about moral absolutes. Raising questions about other people’s choices, after all, could offend someone and nothing is less acceptable these days than causing someone offence.
I certainly seem to have offended a lot of people in the last few days. I was severely criticised by some on the Left and a number of women have contacted me to say they felt insulted, pointing out that since becoming single parents at a young age, they had gone on to further and higher education and made a success of their lives. Which is brilliant. I have nothing but admiration for them.
And if there are some, albeit a minority, of young men and women who can overcome such a huge disadvantage inflicted at such an early age, does that mean the issue doesn’t have to be addressed at all, that we simply assume that if some can succeed, then all can?
I was very specifically criticising our acceptance of those young women who lose all their educational and career opportunities because of their pregnancies and who spend the rest of their lives on benefit.
So why are so many on the Left angry at me? For some it is because they don’t feel it is a problem; they believe that, as a rich society, we can afford to fund this ‘lifestyle choice’.
Others are uneasy at a Labour politician making judgments about other people’s choices; I have ‘no right’ to put greater value on one person’s choices than on another’s, it seems.
Still others fear I am adopting the rhetoric of the Right-wing by ‘doing a Peter Lilley’, the Social Security Secretary who caused controversy by lampooning benefits cheats with his ‘I have a little list…’ Gilbert and Sullivan pastiche at the 1992 Tory conference – and by attacking vulnerable young women.
But I’m attacking no one. I am pointing out that we have an unacceptably high level of teenage pregnancies. I am stating a fact that for many of these young women (and far fewer young men), parenthood will mean fewer opportunities and a higher chance of life on benefits.
There is no doubt that raising yet another generation of young men in fatherless homes is a recipe for social disaster. Yes, I’m generalising and yes, there are plenty of homes where the absence of a violent, abusive father is a blessing to the mother and children. But common sense dictates that, in general, children benefit from having the love of a mother and a father.
Yet what kind of society have we created when the above paragraph will inevitably be seen by some as offensive, narrow-minded and intolerable?
AS FOR the accusation of giving comfort to the ‘Right-wing’, when did it become ‘Left-wing’ to tolerate such a colossal waste of lives? Why is it ‘Left-wing’ to allow millions of people to remain on benefits instead of working? When did ‘Labour’ stop meaning ‘work’ and start to mean ‘benefits’?
There are many others who believe the gradualist approach to moving people off benefits and into work is the right way to go. But my instinct tells me more radical measures will have to be introduced to see the step-change needed to make a real difference to the number of claimants. I know of some Ministers who would prefer this issue not to be raised, who would rather be able to get on with quietly and doggedly chipping away at the mountain of claimants, encouraging here, facilitating there, empowering here…
But if more extreme measures, such as financial penalties for long-term claimants, need to be taken in future, they will need public support. That means being absolutely honest about the scale of the problem and the devastation that long-term benefit dependency can cause. I have written before about the responsibility the Thatcher Government bears for initiating the benefits dependency culture in the 1980s, when millions of redundant workers with no hope of further employment were encouraged to claim invalidity benefits to keep the headline jobless figures at a ‘politically acceptable’ level.
That argument is still valid. But I don’t care which government or politician was responsible for the problem 25 years ago. I don’t want to know who is to blame for the fact that the problem has barely receded since then.
The only thing that matters is that children are still getting each other pregnant and that their children will grow up without the life chances I think they deserve. And another generation is about to be lost to the benefits culture.
No matter who wins the arguments in the TV newsrooms and the Commons about who should accept the blame, our society will remain hobbled by benefits dependency.
No single party, I’m convinced, has all the answers. James Purnell, the Work and Pensions Secretary, has proposed some of the most radical changes yet to the welfare state. But just because Labour is in government does not give us a monopoly on solutions. Former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith and Theresa May, the Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, have much to add to this debate, as has Frank Field, the Labour MP who was asked by Tony Blair to ‘think the unthinkable’ back in 1997, who did – and was sacked for his efforts.
It has taken nearly three decades of failure to get to this point. It could take us a similar time to repair the damage. So the sooner we start, the better.
Instead of our political leaders blaming each other for our past failures, far better, surely, for them in years to come to be able to share the credit for their success by giving back hope and ambition to our young people.
























Saturday 7 March 2009 at 11:15 pm
Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent
Saturday 7 March 2009 at 11:28 pm
Good. Keep the ball rolling.
I have found that if I’m not upsetting people, I’m not saying the right things.
If you annoy people who are satisfied to see such a waste of precious human life – being permanent fixtures of the state – then be joyful!
They’re the ones with the problem.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 12:03 am
Brave article Tom. Respect.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 12:19 am
‘fatherless homes’ are not always, or even mostly, a disaster, Tom….. as you should know. There’s an unfortunate self-righteousness in this article, creeping into your blog too. It’s sad that a Labour MP is attacking some of the most powerless (young single mothers) in our society at the same time as powerful men ( Gordon’s former adviser Sir Fred, for example) have wreaked havoc. Diversionary tactics or an early job application, I’m not sure…….. Yes, you’ve had a lot of media this week, but at what cost?
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 12:28 am
PS: can you control the timing of adverts on your blog? There’s something horribly alice in wonderlandish, no, utterly distasteful, about reading your comments on welfare dependancy under an advert for “caviar, foie grais and truffles delivered to your door”……..
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 12:51 am
An eloquent and robust rewrite, without a retreat.
You write,”I know of some Ministers who would prefer this issue not to be raised..”
Ministers prefer a lot of issues not to be raised and then become outraged that people take their vote elsewhere.
You are correct in thinking this is not a left or right issue. It is an issue of whether people want to fund the lifestyle choices of others. And frankly, they do not.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 2:12 am
Hello Tom,
I’m a Labour Councillor, and I work as a social worker, tasked with safeguarding the most vulnerable children of all. I realise that you use this blog to express your “anger” about things quite a lot (teenage parents, child abuse) but I’m not sure being angry changes much or helps anybody. It doesn’t in the job I do, for sure. Reasoned arguments and evidence might.
I would be nice if you spelt out a little more what exactly the hoped for outcome of your piece was? Have you achieved it? When and how will you know if you’ve been successful in your endeavours?
Reading your post, I don’t think it would help anyone if I responded to your post with personal attacks of any kind, although that’s not consideration you seem to have thought to extend to the “teenage mums” you refer to in your post.
I did wonder a couple of things about your original post:
i) why don’t you refer to boys / men – in their teenage years or older. I do wonder why the object of your onslaught falls, exclusively on women, rather than men. There’s young fathers out who do a brilliant job, yet there are many who aren’t involved in their children’s lives at all, for a variety of complex reason. I do wonder why you have attacked the girls / women literally left “holding the baby”, but leave the male sex entirely out of the equation. You do attack men in the Mail on Sunday (and I think attack is sadly the right word). Is this because you realised you had made a mistake is singling out just one, particularly vulnerable, group from criticism?
ii) you seem a little confused about age, Tom. Do you really think that the issues faced by 14 year old mother and a 19 year old mother, or their young children, might be subtly different? Can you think of any differences here? It might be worth including them in any future articles.
iii) How many teenage mothers have you spoken in preparation for your little piece?
I do understand that you overhead a new baby’s grandfather talking in hospital a while ago, but has your personal experience of this issue gone beyond that?
I’m sure it has, but I do wonder why you don’t seem to mention it.
iv) Given you have been a Government minister, and represent a party which has been in office for nearly 12 years and doubtless you will represent a large number of young parents in Glasgow, don’t you think it might have been a good idea to include any qualitative or quantitative evidence to support your arguments, other than a single anecdote, in your piece? I wonder if it might have been an idea to talk about some of the significant changes in Children’s Services legislation and policy which I presume you have voted for, as their clearly of relevance to this issue. Have you read, or even heard of, the Teenage Pregnancy Strategy (at a local or national level). Don’t you think it might have been a good idea to read it first?
iv) I’m sure I’m not the only person to be saddened to read a Labour MP writing in the Mail on Sunday that Iain Duncan-Smith, has a “lot to offer” this area of debate.
What precisely is that Tom, please explain? He didn’t really have that much to offer his own party, and seeking to rebuild his career on his ‘Broken Britain’ hypothesis hasn’t changed matters.
v) Just out of interest, why did you write this piece at this particular time? Did something happen to make you so very angry that you didn’t want to write about? Just out of interest, don’t you think it might be a little harder for the young parents to represent to find work now, compared to a year or two ago? I wonder if you thought this was worth mentioning?
vi) Have you ever met personally, or directly heard about, any individual young woman who became pregnancy purely and simply because of the benefit / housing entitlement this would create.
Do you actually know of a single one?
If so, and I think you answer may in any event be no, how are you sure that this was the case?
I would be interested in your thoughts.
kind regards,
Bill
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 7:46 am
I am sure the founders of the Labour party ( and many more) would not have wanted to see the current situation.
Help them back into work yes but a lifestyle choice no.They would have seen the family as the correct way forward.
Is it Tom that you see you cannot win the next election and you now want to speak your mind to clear your conscience.
Well whatever the reason not enough in your party do. Too many put party before country.
You have done the right thing and I hope I see more of it for the sske of our country not party ideaoligy.
Did you werestle with the decision to say this or did it just happen. ?
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 7:49 am
Sorry about the spelling. It was after the shock read you see.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 9:17 am
Tom its only when I read your comments that I think there is a hint of common sese left in the Labour Party. The welfare state should be a safeguard against poverty not a way of life. I find it uterly demoralising to come home from a long day at work to my home town filled with an army of buggy pushing teenagers that dont work and haven’t worked. I am all for helping out in times of need but my heavy tax bill could be spent in much better ways
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 9:20 am
having read the above i would like to point out that errors in my spelling are as a result of my frantic typing
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 9:42 am
a favourable review by peter hitchins, the hand wringers and tissue tearers off in a corner quietly sobbing !
is it something you said ?
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 9:57 am
re: Your aticle.
Q. “When did ‘Labour’ stop meaning ‘work’ and start to mean ‘benefits’?”
A. 1997, or possibly 1946 depending on how much history you’re willing to read.
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Certainly the fact that the number of people receiving state benefits has doubled since 1997 and is at its highest level ever would suggest that this was a deliberate strategy.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 9:58 am
sorry, aRticle.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 10:23 am
Richard – there are greater numbers now on benefits than in 1997 only if you confuse benefits with tax credits. The latter are payable only to those in work and are, in effect, a tax rebate in lieu of work done. Far, far better to have people claiming tax credits (because they’re at least working) than claiming incapacity benefits.
Incidentally, there are, in fact fewer people claiming IB now than in 1997. We’ve argued about this before. We don’t agree. I think we’ll leave it at that, shall we?
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 10:43 am
I take this where it comes from New labour..
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 11:12 am
It’s disheartening how many people seem to have taken Tom’s arguments as an attack on teenagers. His attack is on the deterioration of attitudes to the point where it is acceptable for able-bodied people to live off the state for years, if not for life.
A commenter on a previous thread said you cannot get the poor to turn on the poor. Nobody wants people to turn on people, although the low-paid cetrainly resent the fact benefits claimants in their communities get more money than they do. They don’t necessarily resent the claimants themselves, just the social deterioration that has brought us to this point.
We’ve spoken of the miners’ strike. What was their slogan again? ‘We’re sick of this dangerous job. We want benefits instead’? I think it was ‘coal, not dole’. The Jarrow marching was not about getting state benefits. It was about getting work. Most people want to work but if a benefit claimant is going to lose money by doing so, or, in some cases, gain money or accommodation by getting pregnant and ignoring the long-term consequences, then living on benefits will necessarily be the choice of many. It need not be cynical or parasitical although it becomes socially deleterious and self-perpetuating.
When you have little money an extra ten pounds a week can make a big difference. If the state will give you that and a job won’t, if you can’t get a house any other way than by having a child, and this applies to both partners, then whoever, as Tom said, is to blame for this situation, it will persist.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 11:21 am
@Bill 2.12am
“Have you ever met personally, or directly heard about, any individual young woman who became pregnancy purely and simply because of the benefit / housing entitlement this would create.”
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I’ve certainly met some as a result of being involved in a piece of research conducted among SEGs DE in which a high percentage of the sample comprised young, single mothers. One particular girl I remember, who was about to celebrate her 21st, already had two children. She’d never had a job and, in response to a question about her standard of living, complained, “they don’t pay us enough”. She seemed not to realise that pay is awarded in exchange for work and I doubt if she had ever wondered where the money that she was given actually came from. She also complained that her council flat was too small and that she was going to have another baby because “they’ll have to give me a bigger house”. Sadly, her sentiments were echoed by others in the sample.
The research was carried out, about eight years ago, in a very deprived area in the North East of England in which educational achievement and aspiration were the lowest in Europe, there continue to be very limited employment opportunities and little social mobility.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 11:32 am
Tom – great article. As Ms Matheson said, it’s people like you who will keep Labour alive after the 2010 election.
But on the subject of tax credits, couldn’t we achieve the same aim by raising the personal allowance on income tax? The upside of doing this would be greatly reduced administration costs and less hassle for working families trying to work out their entitlements.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 12:42 pm
Why is it seen as brave for stating the obvious – probably because no-one is allowed to state the obvious in politics. I very much agree with the sentiments – why is it Left wing to support whole communities living on benefits. New Labour obviously decided it was and then decided millions of people would come into an already small and overpopulated island to do jobs that are not done by those on benefits. And if the UK is such a rich country that it can afford to run its affairs in this way, why is so much a run down dump?
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 12:43 pm
There are not enough jobs, and too many jobs that only pay the wretched minimun wage.
It’s all right for you, but I’m afraid we can’t all be government ministers.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 1:42 pm
Mike: “I’m afraid we can’t all be government ministers.”
Tell me about it!
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 2:27 pm
“Far, far better to have people claiming tax credits (because they’re at least working) than claiming incapacity benefits.”
Same effect. Money goes from my pocket to theirs. Yes, good that they’re not claiming IB but surely better still if they work and pay taxes at full value like the rest of us.
I see your socialist/redistributive roots coming back into play. We’ll make an honest Labour man out of you yet.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 2:54 pm
Your excellent article asks a number of pertinent questions, the main one being “Why is it left wing to allow millions of people to remain on benefits instead of working?”.
The answer could be that it’s not so much left wing, but that it’s more new labour. Could it be based on the same thinking that has driven the unsustainable growth of an inefficient but largely obedient public sector?
“And an other thing”…
Are you making a run for the top job in some kind of new new labour party? I bet you’ve even started to wear a tie to work.
The road to Damascus may be long, but as you’re starting to prove, that long and winding road offers plenty of time for conversion. Keep up the good work and keep taking whatever it is you’re taking, it’s doing you good.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 3:26 pm
@ Richard at 2.27 pm: Tax credits are about making work more profitable and attractive than benefits – something I strongly approve of, even if you and your party don’t.
If a future Tory government abolish tax credits, they will in effect make the benefit dependancy vicious circle even worse and you will end up with fewer people in work and more on benefits – the kind of benefits you and I would agree on the definition of. If you think that would be a good thing, or even an improvement on today’s situation, then God help us all.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 4:13 pm
@Colin
In every picture I’ve seen of Tom he is wearing a tie, some cynical people might say it the only bright thing about him.
Not me though, I like people who wear gaudy ties
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Sunday 8 March 2009 at 4:15 pm
I hate to say this but your right our culture has become to dependent on the state and benefits. Bevan and Beveridge would be turning in their graves at the state of our welfare system for too long it has been acceptable for people to live off benefits. This is as a result of labour and conservative government who have been to afraid to give people a good kicking and get them off their asses and into work. Current governments have pandered to lazy people who do not need tax credits or benefits but to get off their asses and get a job.
I understand that there are some people who cannot work,or who are on low incomes and need assistance i have no objections to having a welfare system that protects them but we should not hand out money to people who are BLOODY LAZY! As a teenage girl hoping to go study law at glasgow in the coming years. I do not understand why so girls insist on ruining their oppertunities by getting pregant at 14. The thing is these girls are not stupid most could have a very bright future so like yourself I am baffled by the current state of our welfare system and the increasing dependency on it!
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 4:31 pm
Bill
vi) Have you ever met personally, or directly heard about, any individual young woman who became pregnancy purely and simply because of the benefit / housing entitlement this would create.
Do you actually know of a single one?
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Bill, mate, tell me this; what planet are you living on?
Cos it ain’t this one.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 4:33 pm
Ps Tosh – you might at least have spelt ‘dependancy’ mo’ be’ah.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 4:45 pm
Colin
Are you making a run for the top job in some kind of new new labour party.
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Interesting theory Chris.
Peter Vain was in the blessed MoS today -I didn’t read it but I believe the gist is Old Labour dead, New Labour finished. There seems to be a certain amount of ‘positioning’ going on. There’s no point whatsoever in ‘positioning’ for after the election, so it can only be for before the election. But how? The rules of The Party make it nigh impossible to shift Captain Insensible and in any case self-awareness is not his strong suit. He’s not going to walk.
And let’s be honest, what kind of a question can you come up with that has ‘Peter Hain’ as the answer.
Ferrets in a sack, really, nothing more, nothing less.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 5:09 pm
You receive warm praise from Peter Hitchens in today’s MoS. Be afraid Mr Harris… be very afraid.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 5:55 pm
@ Tom “Tax credits are about making work more profitable and attractive than benefits”.
I don’t accept your premise. I’d argue that tax credits are about redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor, specifically to achieve arbitrary governmental ambitions (like reducing relative poverty and reducing relative childhood poverty).
If Government really wanted to make work more “attractive” they’d lower income tax. Then we could all benefit from a greater income, rather then supporting certain favoured segments of society.
Tax credits are a simply tool of redistribution. I’ve no doubt that “Dave” will abolish them in favour of something rather more fair to those who aren’t currently being redistributed to.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 7:09 pm
I love the way you just completely ignore he comment from Bill at 2:12am. Hello, reasoned analysis, you don’t fit very snugly into a soundbite.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 7:11 pm
Glad you liked it.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 7:16 pm
Echoing Richard’s comment at 5.55pm (and repeating mine at 11.32am):
Why not simply raise the personal allowance for income tax instead of paying out tax credits? This certainly would make work “more profitable and attractive”, as well as saving money for the Government that can be used more usefully.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 8:36 pm
Why can’t you write sensible stuff like this more often instead of partisan rubbish?
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 8:43 pm
Because partisan rubbish is what I do; it is my “thing”, if you will.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 9:02 pm
@ Andy
“Why not simply raise the personal allowance for income tax instead of paying out tax credits?”
Sensible question, but easily answered – Labour won’t do this because it doesn’t allow them to directly redistribute money to people on lower incomes, nor does it require people on lower incomes to be beholden to the government to receive this money.
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 11:25 pm
Tom, as you know, there is no way in which I could ever find myself voting for your Party but I have to say that I agree with almost every word you say in the Mail on Sunday article. I admire your courage and in taking this principled stand but I fear there will be few others in the Labour Party who will accept your article at its face value, especially with a General Election in the offing.
Monday 9 March 2009 at 7:20 pm
@ Alastair Mackenzie “I admire your courage and in taking this principled stand”
It’s very easy to take a ‘principled stand’ when you’re a back-bench minister with one of the safest seats in parliament.
Monday 9 March 2009 at 7:55 pm
@richard
Back-bench minister eh? Just when I thought I’d pretty much got the parliamentary jargon down.
Monday 9 March 2009 at 8:00 pm
I didn’t want to mention it.
Tuesday 10 March 2009 at 10:01 pm
Sorry, should have read “back-bench, FORMER minister with one of the safest seats in parliament”.
Friday 13 March 2009 at 4:34 am
richard
Sunday 8 March 2009 at 9:57 am
re: Your aticle.
Q. “When did ‘Labour’ stop meaning ‘work’ and start to mean ‘benefits’?”
A. 1997, or possibly 1946 depending on how much history you’re willing to read.
So you regard the Tories as being more culpable than Labour? (Given that they have spent a larger percentage of the post war years in power than Labour). Interesting.
Friday 13 March 2009 at 2:36 pm
I speak as a former ‘teen mum’. My marriage broke down when I had my son. I had made one mistake and that was marrying an extremely violent man. As a result, I was forced on to Income Support for a couple of years.
While in receipt of this benefit, I volunteered 3 days a week at the Citizens Advice Bureau (very good training!) and also 2 evenings per week with Radio Lollipop. I felt a sense of shame at accepting state benefits and was happy to give something back to the community.
I was then employed for many years as a Welfare Rights Officer – thanks to my C.A.B. training.
I am now happily remarried, my son is in University and my daughter is still at school. We are lucky enough not to be in any form of debt whatsoever.
There is no need for any able-bodied person to be reliant on State Benefit and not be expected to give something back. The welfare system, to my knowledge, was set up more as a safety net for those who would be destitute without it and not as the comfort blanket it has become today.
It really is about time the government sorted this out and stopped consistently giving something for nothing to healthy people.
Sunday 15 March 2009 at 8:07 am
Well done Tom. If the rest of the Labour party woke up and smelt the coffee I would have one heck of a lot more respect for them.
Stick to your guns!
Sunday 15 March 2009 at 9:34 am
I’m a public sector manager about to move into the regeneration section of a new local authority (ask Hazel!). Your article has inspired me to redouble my efforts do do what I can to deal with the problems in my area. It is refreshing to read opinion seeking to be based in correct philosophy first rather than based in populist utilitarianism and relativism.
Monday 16 March 2009 at 6:04 am
From Bill, Sunday 2.12am
“vi) Have you ever met personally, or directly heard about, any individual young woman who became pregnancy purely and simply because of the benefit / housing entitlement this would create.
Do you actually know of a single one?”
Whether Tom knows of one, I certainly know of several. Bill is in danger of reinforcing stereotypes people may have about social workers.
Excellent article, Tom. I think, “When did Labour stop meaning ‘work’ and start meaning ‘benefits’?” is an excellent question.
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