And Another Thing…

I like your tweet, “Will Mulletgate spell the end for Cameron?”

Which reminds me – I was your thousandth follower on Twitter (@StewartCowan). You said you were excited to find out who it would be.

Well?

Anyone remember Ravey Davey Gravey from The Viz -

http://www.vizartwork.co.uk/ekmps/shops/vizartwork/images/22march07_024%5Bekm%5D225x300%5Bekm%5D.jpg

It would be deliciously ironic if Mr C (that’s the leader of the opposition not the bloke from The Shamen) was keen on the old outdoor raves seeing as Majors 1994 Criminal Justice Act was very much against ‘repetitive beats’.

Iain Dale will be launching his top 10 dance anthems anytime now

No.

Stewart Cowan at 1.55 pm: “I was your thousandth follower on Twitter (@StewartCowan). You said you were excited to find out who it would be”

“Excited” just doesn’t do credit to what I’m feeling right now, Stewart. So tell me, did you deliberately try for 1000th, or was it a coincidence? Because, frankly, if it was the former, that makes me kind of scared…

Be afraid…

You twittered, or is it tweeted, that you were looking forward to seeing who your 1,000th would be, so I clicked to your Twitter page and saw you were on 999, so I took the opportunity. I was your thousandth and you were my first.

I see you haven’t yet returned the compliment by following me. You can read about me leaving the freezer door open all night and thus having to invite several friends round for dinner.

I’m sure equally exciting things will happen in the future that you just won’t want to miss.

Stewart – what a choice! Follow or block? Follow or block? Follow or block…?

I’m pro-liberalisation of the drug laws. Having looked at the evidence, its clear to me that Prohibition does more harm that good. It’s prohibition that puts, for example, £6bn through the black economy because it’s banned Cannabis. Its prohibition that fosters an environment of criminality around drug use – from smuggling and production through to stealing to fund use. Not to mention the fact that prohibiton directly funds Taliban-allies in Afghanistan as they produce 90% of the world’s heroin (a drug that after living in Glasgow and Brighon I can tell you is not glamorous, may keep you thin, but is a monster waiting to eat all but the very luckiest of users). We pay for all that through illegality.

With that in mind, do I care if Dave got off his face in the 90s? I have to say no as at the time almost everyone I went to school with was playing about with pot and ecstasy (although of the latter it was expected that some amount of permanent depression/brain structure changes – damage – should be expected through over induldgence, whether this was ‘real’ or ‘true’ or not…

More interestingly, I’m open that my drug use has included Cannabis, LSD, Speed, Coke and E. This would, for a 35 year old Uni Grad be pretty unremarkable. Where it gets interesting is in the preparation it’s given me for the drugs I now have to take for MS. If I have a relapse I get a steroid (mis-spelt) Methylprednisolone which can have psycho-active effects. If I’d not taken acid, I’d not have known how to approach such a 3-day trip, not understood how to recognise how thesubtle effects altering personality, ramping up intemperateness or aggression. I’d, in particular, not have known that (like Acid), an awful lot turned on the state of mind you have when you take it – fear is death.

And with respect to Multiple Sclerosis, LSD gives an excellent grounding in the position that you tend to find yourself in – that reality may not be presenting itself to you entirely accurately. I get holes in my field of vision that, becuase of the way the visual cortex functions, are mapped over by the brain’s VR until my attention is confronted with something (like a car – which is why I don’t drive despite having a medically restricted 4 year license) pops out of the blind spot. Which, philosphically, challenges your experience of perceptual reality in ways that, frankly, ONLY LSD had prepared me for.

I’m not recommending drugs but if you dabble, it would be wrong to dismiss you for those experiences. In a world where reality is not always what you perceive it to me, like it or not, but drugs can give you a good store of simulated experiences for handling that.

And don’t get me started on Medical Marijuana or I’ll start up about Sativex, Thames House and the GW factory in Portod Down…

Someone on Guido says it’s Cameron’s cousin Tom, whoever he may be.

I seem to remember Cameron saying some time ago that his then girlfriend Samantha was going to raves, whilst at the same time he was involved in some junior capacity with the legislation against raves.

So either he was going to raves with Samantha, which would make him look a bit of a hypocrite, or he wasn’t (maybe he was in bed by 10 with a cup of cocoa and listening to Morrissey records), which makes him look like a bit of a t**t.

I guess this is similar to the question of whether gays should be “outed”. On the one hand, such matters should be a private matter. On the other hand, if they are a politician or other leader standing on a moralist platform, demonstrating their hypocrisy has value. The problem is, with drugs and other libertinisms, demonstrating that the politician has done the Damned Thing is more likely to lead to them renouncing it (“I was young, foolish, I prodoundly regret dancing like a berk while smoking banana skins twenty years ago”) than push them into coming out in favour of liberalisation. So it can be counterproductive and usually is.

Thatcher’s anti-rave laws were authoritarian bullsh*t, riding on the wave of a moral panic. I’m frankly sick to the back teeth of politics driven by moral panics and the dark arts of manufactured consent. But how we can change that, I don’t know, since it’s in so many groups’ vested interests.

Even if this is Ravey Davey, it’s unlikely it’ll help tear down drug prohibition which is presumably what Guido wants, from his other writings. I don’t see the point, really. Maybe he’s just trying to show he doesn’t only attack Labourites?

It’s just a ruse to try to make us forget about the £2000 Bulligndon suits…

BTW, is Dave a mason?

I thought the second picture on your masthead was George Osborne.

“He has never been a great selector of people”

What this you?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8023225.stm

“BTW, is Dave a mason?”

Dunno Alex. Is Tony? Gordon? Peter? Alastair?

Do we ask that question in British politics or do we ask it to smear people we don’t like?

Can I just make it clear at this point that no-one is accusing David Cameron or anyone else of having used illegal drugs at some point in their life, and neither is anyone accusing him of being a mason. Not on my blog they’re not, anyway. And why is accusing someone of being a mason a “smear”?

And no, I’m not.

For quite a while, it seems Tom….

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=freemason+smear&btnG=Search&meta=

Other searches that suggest that the public may associate the freemasons with unsavory activities include:

(“freemaseon police”)

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=freemason+police&btnG=Search&meta=

(“freemaseon corruption”)

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=freemason+corruption&btnG=Search&meta=

and last but by no means least…

(“freemasons moonlandings”)

Faking the moonlandings!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ei=3VH3SYS3DIbSjAfGit3ZDA&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=freemason+moon+landings&spell=1

The religion of Freemasonry is Lucifer-worship. Only the few who reach higher degrees are made aware of the fact.

I don’t think we have to worry about smears, but rather what these people are doing to our institutions once they get a foot in the door.

“Faking the moonlandings!”

I should add, for the record, that this is sarcasm. I am not a reality denier!

I’ll try again.

If I were David Cameron, and that was me in the picture, I’d be far less worried about the rave, the funny substances, the odd handshakes, all allegedly, of course, and probably without substance, and far more worried about the hairstyle. So uncool.

And how can his hairline have ceded? By several inches.

(That is the opposite of receded, isn’t it?)

I think Guido was upset by being labelled as a right wing blogger during his numerous appearances during “smeargate”, so now he’s got to prove he attacks Tories as well. Is Iain Dale onto it yet? Or Nadine?

Shaun,

It’s not a smear, just a question. Why would it be a smear…?

Now accusing him of being a member of a hooray henry club that keeps the riff raff out and insists that you spend £thousands on a club smoking jacket. Now that’s a smear.

What’s that you say, he actually was a member of a hooray henry club that keeps the riff raff out and insists that you spend £thousands on a club smoking jacket!

Oh dear.

Did you not watch Ashes to Ashes last night. If Gene Hunt thinks the Masons are bad……

Whoever that is looks as if he’s having fun.

Are there any pictures of you going to raves that we should know about, Tom?

I’m also one of those who has no idea why Guido is pursuing this. Perhaps he’s just waiting for the next batch of Derek Draper’s emails to arrive in his office. Who knows?

I would have thought suspicions of Guido’s being a right-wing blogger were better served by mentioning all those drinkipoos he had at South African related bashes during the 1980s.

I would have thought suspicions of Guido’s being a right-wing blogger were better served by mentioning all those drinkipoos he had at South African related bashes during the 1980s.

The religion of Freemasonry is Lucifer-worship. Only the few who reach higher degrees are made aware of the fact.

Oh, for goodness sake. I hope you are being tongue ‘n cheek with the inclusion of the second sentence. Otherwise you’d come across as one of the earnest characters in Eco’s Foucault’s Pendulum.

Even if this were true, what’s the beef? Lucy isn’t Satan, like.

Oh, what am I saying… it woz the Masons wot broke up Yugoslavia!

Here’s one reason why I don’t like to see backhanded remarks about Freemason membership used:

http://www.bhserbia.org/antimason/plakat29.jpg

RandomRanter got the connection!

Coconut for that man!

“Now accusing him of being a member of a hooray henry club that keeps the riff raff out and insists that you spend £thousands on a club smoking jacket. Now that’s a smear.”

Alex. That *is* the freemasons. Do a quick check:

Invite Only? Check
Closed to non-members? Check
Secretive? Check
Odd rituals? Check
Strange clothing (aprons)? Check
Mostly for the wealthy or powerful? Check

Alex. That *is* the freemasons. Do a quick check:

Er, not my local lodge (of which I am not a member). Are you thinking of From Hell?

Invite Only? Check
Closed to non-members? Check
Secretive? Check
Odd rituals? Check

I thought that was the Christadelphins.

Good list, Shaun. I’ll also mention:

Full of big businessmen, politicians, high ranking police officers, royalty and even mainstream religious leaders. Check

I can’t confirm if the following apply to the Bullingdon Club or just the Freemasons:

Poses as a charitable organisation for furthering its agenda. Check

Claims not to be a religion, which is ridiculous once you realise that it is a Luciferian cult (see Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike). Check

Sorry Shaun: now who’s smearing?

Anyway I would not be surprised if Dave was a mason. It’s the sort of thing his sort of person does. Like forming exclusive clubs for the rich and keeping the hoi-polloi out by blackballing them as “common” and ensuring membership costs the annual wage of an average person or more and jackets the cost of a anyone else’s car.

The perfect qualification for an open and modern democrat you would agree.

Stewart, are you still trying to present Lucifer as Satan and hope that no-one notices?

Please be more specific about what we should “see” in Albert Pike. In fact, please provide literature from less than a century and a half ago – from somewhere other than such a patently biased source would also be good.

Full of big businessmen, politicians, high ranking police officers, royalty and even mainstream religious leaders.

Again, not round here! Here it’s school janitors, road-sweepers, security guards. You *are* one of those blokes in Fookall’s Pendulum.

Oh, why don’t you just accuse them of covering up child-sex rings? It’s the next step in this line of dotty thinking.

Me, I think I may read about what one of the greatest scourges of Freemasonry in the latter half of the 20th Century – the Spanish Catholic Church.

Resubmitting without my final comment:

@Alec

Stewart, are you still trying to present Lucifer as Satan and hope that no-one notices?

Where did I do that? The names are often interchangeable and the end result of ‘Luciferianism’ or ‘Satanism’ is that you lose your own soul.

Please be more specific about what we should “see” in Albert Pike. In fact, please provide literature from less than a century and a half ago – from somewhere other than such a patently biased source would also be good.

He was the top Freemason and his book was handed out to new Masons, so I guess it is pretty reliable.

Full of big businessmen, politicians, high ranking police officers, royalty and even mainstream religious leaders. Again, not round here!

OK, I was wrong to use the word ‘full’ but members put other members before the rest of society, which may produce unfairness in members’ professional capacity.

Oh, why don’t you just accuse them of covering up child-sex rings? It’s the next step in this line of dotty thinking.

Maybe in yours.

Can I take a step back here and ask if there’s an in-joke I ain’t privy to? Surely this is a wind-up… yes, it’s okay, it is. Sorry folks.

I mean, citing Pike has got to be a joke!

Masons r builders. Temple builders
of christian church. In particular
spiritual temple as opposed 2 the
literal stonework. Theories on web
suggest ritual abuse blag going on.
Certainly within the Peace Convoy
circles, whos raves i went 2 cira
1990, the Freemasons were the
enemy in terms of limiting
societies consciousness and reality.
Likewise the famous Exodus
Collective. The organisation is
closely associated with the states
hierarchy, the ‘power’, the the tune
”FIGHT THE POWER” that was
around a few years ago.