DAVID Cameron claimed yesterday that Labour "dishonesty" over the need for spending cuts could result in rioting on the streets.
What a clown. I’m sorry — I was going to attempt some deeper analysis, but what’s the point? If the Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition thinks that it’s okay to excuse in advance acts of violence against a democratically-elected government, then he’s an idiot.
I know that in these days of single issue politics and flash mobs, we’re supposed to celebrate the New Activism. But not if it involves violence or intimidation or anything else that is traditionally associated with the word "riot". If, after the re-election of a Labour government (or the election of a Tory government — I guess anything’s possible) the electorate change their mind for whatever reason, they can vote the governmet out at the subsequent election.
But for Cameron to use such scare tactics and to suggest that rioters might actually have justification for violence is itself utterly inexcusable.
And if you’re unconvinced, just ask yourself this: what would have been the reaction from the media and the right wing bloggers if Gordon Brown had yesterday suggested that the election of a Tory government committed to cuts would result in rioting in the streets?
UPDATE at 11.50 am: I see that Michael Gove has declined the opportunity to emulate his leader’s scare-mongering. Could it be that Michael, a sensible type, has realised before his boss that the language Cameron used yesterday was, to say the least, inappropriate? I wonder if any other Shadow Cabinet members will repeat Dave’s prediction of riots?













Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 11:51 am
Beware the Bullingdon Riots, they could be on the way to a town near on their punts – such silly punts.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 12:04 pm
Sigh… if all you can do is write on the basis of a deliberate over-interpretation of an idiomatic phrase then I’m sad. I enjoy your blogs mostly, but this one seems to be a stretch. And to justify it by alluding to what the media ‘would have’ written about Gordon Brown using such language, is weak at best.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 12:21 pm
The inner city riots of the early 80s were a direct result of Labour failures in the 1970s. History maybe repeating.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 12:22 pm
You’re attempting jokes whilst hundreds of thousands are thrown on the dole. Hope you’re proud of yourself.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 12:42 pm
“Attempting” jokes?!
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 12:46 pm
Democratically elected MPs perhaps but not sure you can call this a democratically elected government…. last I recall we elected a PM called Blair… so why is this the Brown government?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 12:49 pm
Tom,
Five years ago the FSA issued a report into the mortgage market. They concluded that many banks and building societies were involved in dodgy or fraudulent mortgage practices. The FSA did nothing but issue a report. Gordon Brown just ignored it.
If that report had been taken seriously five years ago, would we have had to bail out the banks? would the economy in this country be in such a bad state?
Brown is to blame for the mess we are in.
Can we please stop the lies?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 12:58 pm
“If, after the re-election of a Labour government (or the election of a Tory government — I guess anything’s possible) the electorate change their mind for whatever reason, they can vote the governmet out at the subsequent election.”
Hopefully yes. We’ll find out next year won’t we. I’m still not convinced Gordon is actually capable of letting go.
“And if you’re unconvinced, just ask yourself this: what would have been the reaction from the media and the right wing bloggers if Gordon Brown had yesterday suggested that the election of a Tory government committed to cuts would result in rioting in the streets?”
A&Es around the country suddenly full of people with badly split sides?
“There’s a “need” for riots now?”
Actually a great many feel there is ‘need’ for a revolution, riots won’t achieve anything.
Otherwise our Great Grandchildren will still be paying for Brown’s profligacy. That’s if Labour goes now. In nearly another year god alone knows how many future generations Brown will have stolen from.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:00 pm
Democratically-elected? Just point out where in your 2005 manifesto it talks about £175bn budget deficits.
You were elected on the promise of Tony Blair seeing out a full term, a referendum on the EU Constitution and the Golden Economic rules (remember those?). You would have lost if you’d said that Obama Beach would be leader in 2007. You’ve no democratic mandate for carrying on as you are, and you know it.
That said, there’s no need for Cameron to use alarmist language. He needs to be seen as a serious man.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:24 pm
Would you let your kiddies see THIS?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:26 pm
‘There’s a “need” for riots now?’
Once again, semantics save the day…
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:35 pm
The main thing about Brown is the consistent subtext to EVERY (re)announcement he makes.
What is that subtext?
It is this – “You the voter, are stupid, which is why I think we can get away with this hogwash”.
Sadly for your Great Leader, this is not the case. I can’t remember when I last heard so many people enlivened about politics.
So, Tom – how much do you think it will cost the UK WERE Brown able to, as he clearly wishes to, win the election by pumping up the client state? W
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:36 pm
The main thing about Brown is the consistent subtext to EVERY (re)announcement he makes.
What is that subtext?
It is this – “You the voter, are stupid, which is why I think we can get away with this hogwash”.
Sadly for your Great Leader, this is not the case. I can’t remember when I last heard so many people enlivened about politics.
So, Tom – how much do you think it will cost the UK WERE Brown able to, as he clearly wishes to, win the election by pumping up the client state? Given it is our money he’ll be spending to buy these votes?
Give us a figure then?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:36 pm
That’s right Tom.
Cameron supports violent protest.
And he’s a nazi too..
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:41 pm
Oh dear…
Warning against riots and condoning riots are, I think, two different things.
I happen to think what Cameron said was a little OTT but your interpretation of his comments are laughable.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 1:51 pm
This morning, Ed Balls stated that if the Tories win the next election “I think that would lead to a weaker society, it would lead to more public unrest…”.
That would make Balls an idiot too, based on your comments. Are you going to condemn him too? Hmm, thought not.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 2:02 pm
Is that honestly the best you can do?
How desperately sad. Or is it just desperate?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 2:52 pm
“There’s a “need” for riots now?”
If this was France, I think its safe to say that a lot of MPs would be dangling from lamp posts – over the expenses, over the constant lies and multitude of rubbish relaunches…
Actually, how many relaunches has Gordon had now and when will people realise that you can’t polish a turd?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 3:00 pm
So Tom, MPs will not complain when:
their numbers are cut by 20%
Their pensions are cut
and their salaries are reduced by 10%.
Good.
I’m proud of you
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 3:09 pm
Tom
A Scottish Labour MP denouncing others for scaremongering….your kidding right?
where’s the £5000 per household that you and your Labour chums told the people of Glasgow South they would have to pay if the SNP won the 2007 election?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 3:30 pm
But Tom he is right to be very concerned and warn of what will happen if Brown continues on this course of action. Its madness nothing more.I thought you had more backbone and common sense instead you defend what your government is doing. Labour party = sheep.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 4:01 pm
I watched Cameron yesterday and was amazed at his performance. Was he drunk?
His rioting in the streets thing took some thinking about but here’s the logic:
1. Cameron believes that only the Tories can win next time.
2. If he doesn’t spell out his cuts beforehand then there will be riots.
3. Yet “everybody knows” there will be cuts, whoever wins.
4. The Tories will NOT reveal their cuts until after the election.
5. A Tory win will mean riots.
I think that’s what he was saying!
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 4:08 pm
Good old party politics. Enjoy it folks. No need to get upset.
Actually, it’s not funny, is it? Sorry. As you were.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 4:25 pm
Tom arent you a “right wing blogger” – you appear to be supporting (rather more enthusiatically of late) an authoritarian government and its mendacities by suggesting that the opposition predicting public protest is seditious.
Also I think your Schools Secretary is having a breakdown in public: is this an appropriate example to set our children?
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 4:44 pm
oh tom….do you ever stop?
this is the most tiresome blog you have had.
when did david cameron say there would be riots on the street?
thats the problem with 12 years of your horrid party in charge u simply twist everything anyone says.
i am dyslexic and was insulted on a previous blog but u say nothing?
but hey cause its david cameron and the tories you cause it to become a massive molehill.
by the way this mail took me 14 minutes to write and was checked by wife to make sure i had not made any mistakes in my mail, hope thats okay with some of your bloggers.
anyway why shouldnt there be riots on the streets….didnt hear the labour party shouting out ‘no’ when people took to rioting over the poll tax…no course they wouldnt off it was against the tories!
your labour party is so stuck in the 70’s i dont know why you dont all turn up for pmqs dressed in platform shoes and donkey jackets!
let the people decide about the goverment not goon as you have for 2 years….why do you guys think u r so great at running the uk?
let us not forget the labour mp who claimed for a house he had already paid off, a baroness who is currently under investigation by the police, an mp who had a sex romp in the houses of parliament….need i go on?
by the way if any of the bloggers who want to rip the mick out of dyslexic people want to know more about us then please visit http://www.bdadyslexia.org.uk
they might learn something
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 4:45 pm
As Brown prepares for another insane round of spending, I am surprised we haven’t already had rioting in the streets. The suspension of the CSR until after the general election shows that things are very, very bad indeed. I, for one, am frightened. It needs to be spelled out, for the good of the nation, that the madness must stop. Some serious and hard choices need to be made about public spending. Whoever forms the next government will have to make cuts somewhere. And cut the waste.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 5:06 pm
roger benstone: “when did david cameron say there would be riots on the street?”
yesterday in the House of Commons: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5690836/Deceit-over-cuts-wil-lead-to-riots-says-David-Cameron.html
“didnt hear the labour party shouting out ‘no’ when people took to rioting over the poll tax”
Maybe because you weren’t listening, roger. neil kinnock repeatedly condemned the rioters at the time, referring to them as “toytown revolutionaries”.
“by the way if any of the bloggers who want to rip the mick out of dyslexic people…”
No-one on this site has made fun of you for being dyslexic. One commenter made a joke at your expense because you used “teen text” instead of actual words, but that was before you wrote about your condition. Or do you think that everyone should asusme that everyone else who uses such text shortcuts are dyslexic?
However, feel free to be offended if that’s your bag. As I’ve written on this site before, people should be free to feel offended, just as they should feel free to offend.
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 7:13 pm
tom…sorry i think u will find the word is assume not as you have written ‘asusme’…i assume u r not taking the mick?
offended…no tom…looks like u r though with dave camerons outlook on life under labour…
he is just juding the nations feelings and he has got them spot on…something your party has completely and utterly failed to do.
as for riots on the streets clearly you should have done your research as you have quoted that dave cameron stated this in yesterdays house of commons….he actually made the suggestion (i and many others will simply take it as a generalisation of how people may feel rather like saying to someone ‘i will go up the wall if they do this’…yet to meet anyone who has actually ‘gone up the wall’) at his WEEKLY NEWS CONFERENCE! oops…
also this is his statement:
Mr Cameron said: “You go in to an election pretending you are not going to have to make spending reductions, then you have to make them, and then you really do have riots on the streets because people do not have faith in their politicians.”
let people make up their mind if that really says that people should go and act violently against the goverment….
i mean you dont say they are wrong to do it in iran do you?
or china and Tiananmen Square
glad to hear you dont mind people being offended can i accept that you are telling us you advocate the offending of anyone…?
so if i offend a black person, homosexual, muslim etc i am okay then and i wont lose my job, be arrested or anything like that?
because strangely under your goverment that it is now illegal to do such things and can actually lead to someones arrest, as seen below
http://lisnews.org/node/22230
on the labour issue of the poll tax i agree mr. kinnock was against the riots but clearly labour thought it was okay to break the law and of course set an example to others to do so as Terry Fields, Labour MP for Liverpool Broadgreen did?
as for nicky the offender on previous blog…still cant quite what he meant about me being on ‘teenager sites’?
perhaps you could get him to explain?
now tom…and i respect your views and your opinions…lets c if u r prepared to print this and respond!
all in the game all in the game!
Tuesday 30 June 2009 at 10:00 pm
Saying something COULD result in riots is not the same thing as either encouraging or instigating them. It is possibly a warning; maybe a prediction or perhaps just an opinion.
You are being quite pathetic in trying to dress his statement up as excusing in advance ‘acts of violence’ against a democratically elected Government.
And whilst we’re talking democratically elected …. what is so democratic about this Government. We have a (useless) PM who has never faced the electorate. A de facto deputy PM who is unelected and unelectable so installed in the Lords; numerous other unelected Government ministers who were placed in the Lords; a governing party elected on the promise that the previous PM would serve the whole 5 year term; and a Government which thinks nothing of blatently breaking Manifesto promises.
The only surprising thing is that the country has already rioted.
Wednesday 1 July 2009 at 11:32 am
Roger roger roger
.. but clearly labour thought it was okay to break the law and of course set an example to others to do so as Terry Fields, Labour MP for Liverpool Broadgreen did?
Expelled from Labour in 1991 along with other members of the Militant Tendency. You may remember Neil Kinnock having to go through the courts to be allowed to do this.
But twist it as you go along. It doesn’t fool many.
Wednesday 1 July 2009 at 1:29 pm
“…recently warned that the recession might tip Britain towards riots and civil disorder unless voluntary organisations were handed extra resources.”
Hazel Blears
Kinda wipes you out.
Wednesday 1 July 2009 at 2:38 pm
Dave H: “Kinda wipes you out.”
How so? Because Hazel made the same misjudgment as Cameron? Why does that wipe me out?
Wednesday 1 July 2009 at 2:43 pm
”that it’s okay to excuse in advance acts of violence against a democratically-elected government, then he’s an idiot.”
Please Tom answer my question. When did Cameron ”excuse” violence in advance. He made a comment that riots could happen if the people feel deliberately misled.
Cameron is not the idiot.
The idiot is you for such a pathetic attempt at attacking an Opposition MP. Why don’t you attack Dave for something that is justified e.g. for turning the Tory Party into a Toynbee social democratic acid house.
Tom, don’t be such an idiot in future.
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