THERE’S a terrific scene in the TV adaptation of Chris Mullin’s A Very British Coup in which the newly-elected left wing prime minister, Harry Perkins, is catching the train to London and is asked by a journalist: “Do you intend to abolish first class, Mr Perkins?” To which Perkins replies: “No, I intend to abolish second class. I think everybody’s first class, don’t you?”
And there we have it: a template for New Labour half a dozen years before Tony Blair became leader of the Labour Party. New Labour’s appeal was based on an explicit acknowledgement that success, ambition and the pursuit of wealth are all Good Things. Suddenly the taxation of the wealthier was not an end in itself but simply a necessary evil. And it was okay to want a better job, a higher income, nicer holidays, a bigger house. Voting Labour became something you did for yourself as well as for the greater good.
That’s why we won.
Yesterday Compass launched a campaign for a High Pay Commission. Its inaugural statement reads:
The crisis we find ourselves in is one significantly caused by greed. The salaries of those at the top raced away while the median wage stagnated. Inequality grew, and an economic crisis ensued. The unjust rewards of a few hundred ‘masters of the universe’ exacerbated the risks we were all exposed to many times over. Banking and executive remuneration packages have reached excessive levels. We believe now is the time for government to take decisive action.
Fortunately, the chancellor has already dismissed the idea. But as dog whistle politics go, it’s pretty effective. After all, so many have suffered as a result of the banking crisis and no-one ever lost votes by having a go at those we perceive as spoiled and arrogant rich kids. But I can’t help thinking that the authors of that statement are the kind of people who might approve of attacking a Tory by-election candidate as a “Toff” and using top hats as photo props.
When the national minimum wage (NMW) is discussed, it’s often described as a concession by Tony Blair, as if it were something he had to tolerate in return for more “New Labour” measures such as public service reform. Wrong. The NMW was as much a New Labour as an Old Labour achievement because it levelled people up. It was exacly the opposite of class warfare, which is why there is now a consensus between the two parties that it should remain regardless of who forms the next government.
I imagine the so-called High Pay Commission (I wonder how much the chairman would be paid?) would have the aim of setting a national maximum wage. I doubt if a clearer example of the politics of envy has been aired at any time in the last 12 years.
This proposal has “securing our core vote” written all over it. Except it wouldn’t, because once you’ve addressed the understandable anger at certain individuals’ exorbitant salaries, pensions and bonuses, you’re left with the principle that a Labour government is setting a ceiling on individuals’ wealth. And that’s not what governments should be doing, because once you’ve established that principle, once you’ve raised a few cheers by ostentatiously depriving some bankers of their bonuses, where do you go next? What do you do when the media get round to identifying the next figures of public hatred? Target them too? How far down the scale do you go? After all, multi-millionaires may not be able to justify their bonuses to the general public, but neither can civil servants earning six figures or MPs earning five justify their incomes to some of those living off benefits.
Undoubtedly, there are already those typing in the comments box to the effect that, since the government already own the banks, it has the right to intervene to limit financial rewards of those still running them. As indeed it does. But most of the banks and financial institutions aren’t in the public sector. The principle that high bonuses are A Bad Thing is surely applicable across the board, whether a company is publicly or privately owned.
If government decides it can intervene in the market to dictate wages, why shouldn’t it have a role in deciding other areas of corporate policy? And if it starts doing that, it might as well nationalise the-… Oh. Okay, I get it now…
As disgraceful and unjustifiable as these bonuses were/are, they did not lead directly to the banks’ bankruptcy. Poor lending and investment decisions and reckless risk-taking did. So although we might feel better confiscating money from rich people, the actual effect on our economy would be negligible. And making yourself feel better is a very poor motivation for policy, whatever “the court of public opinion” might say on the matter.
And when any party starts producing policy “to secure the core vote”, it might as well write of the next election, go quietly into opposition right now and start thinking about the election after next.














Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 9:24 am
Who are you, and what have you done with that Labour MP?
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 9:25 am
But you knew when Blair came into power that behind him were the massed Left Wing Communists. Bit by bit they got there man into power and now Brown is going left and left. All these crack pot ideas that are now comming up should be clearly dismissed by your leadership, but they are not.
You just want to control everything and of course you end up with nothing.
Does your party never learn anything. To me Labour is just a trouble making party. Party First,first,first. The rest can go to the wall.
Can you not see this Tom.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 9:31 am
Good post, Tom, especially the last paragraph.
It might be worth noting, however, that Labour has been mentally in opposition for months – in fact, probably since Brown took over. It’s all about why not to vote for the Tories, not why to vote for Labour.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 9:31 am
I thought one of the central tenants of New Labour was not to raise to top rate of tax. I think its 50% now, how can we believe anything Labour tells us???
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 9:44 am
Well thought out – its a shame that quote is not used by labour more often.
Although I do not mind some of my money (being middle class and all) being used to help the unemployed people, I still get the feeling that I’m worse off under Labour for the following: begin rant
I pay so certain people get benefits. These benefitters get lots of things for free (dentistry, prescriptions) and certain other things subsidised (housing). While that is all good, because of the level of pay I receive, I pay for this, and then am expected to pay for everything meaning I become “worse off” in a way then the people I pay to help! rant end
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 9:46 am
I agree eith Obnoxio!
Or, when are you defecting Tom??
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:05 am
Good post. Very difficult one this.
As far as ‘Capping’ goes, it’s an excellent idea, but in practice would be impossible to operate.
The publicly funded companies, including the ‘zombie’ banks, should have their corporate expenditures capped dramatically.
How can the RBS justify spending £25,000 at Wimbledon for example.:-(
Private enterprise is a different matter. Simple answer, no.
As you know, Tom, I’m a Tory supporter. But I have a social conscience, as do many Tory supporters, despite the hype from the very vocal right wingers.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:09 am
This blog is so sensible. Amazingly the US had a maximum wage until the dotcom bust – no corporate deduction for salaries of more than $1m a year. So companies simply gave stock options worth far more (which appeared to cost them nothing but were potentially hugely valuable). Those stock options were then blamed for the dotcom boom/bust because they encouraged executives to take short-term measures to boost the value of their options. You always have to remember the law of unintended consequences…
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:19 am
Tom,
The working class ( or even nowadays the “underclass”) has never really been good at class warfare. Indeed many working class people don’t really think in class terms.
But that insouciance stops once you get to the middle class, and even more the upper middle class (i.e. Private schools, Oxbridge, daddies who “know someone who can help you”.) It’s that middle class that wages a ceaseless class warfare to keep its own privilege.
These super high salaries were in no way deserved. They were the salaries of people who had found a way to commit moral fraud and/or engage in asset-stripping.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:22 am
A typically well constructed argument, Tom, and it’s amusing to see the sort of people getting involved in Compass. Former and sitting Presidents of NUS… You wouldn’t have caught me doing crazy stuff like that…
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:25 am
@Ross – There’s also the EU Constitution/Lisbon Treaty and top-up fees as another reason not to believe anything they say. If you make a promise you have to stick to it. Even if you find a technical loophole to get you out of it, people still remember that you broke your promise.
I’m sure someone can come up with a list of similar broken promises under Major that would explain a great deal towards why he was so unpopular too.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:36 am
Am I in a parallel universe? Tom – well said Sir and let’s see more of you on Newsnight.
Your performance over the Gordon plot was exemplary in it’s honesty. A lot of MPs could learn a lot from your example.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:47 am
You say, Tom, as though the work is now done and dusted, that: ‘The NMW was as much a New Labour as an Old Labour achievement because it levelled people up.’
Yes, it did ‘level people up’ initially, and the NMW Act can be seen as a GOOD THING back then.
Can I suggest though, if you’ve not already done so, that you read the latest (March 2009) report for the Low Pay Commission on the impact of the national minimum wage, which gives a worrying indication that it is now doing the reverse of what the 1998 Act intended it to do. Namely, it is holding wages at the bottom down as employers tie their rates to it (half of them in the survey have done this, and the survey will by its nature not get data from the worst employers. Further, ‘The median pay settlement in low-paying sector was 3 per cent in the year to September 2008. This compares to 3.8 per cent in the rest of the economy, indicating that settlements were typically lower in the low-paying sectors.’
See http://www.lowpay.gov.uk/lowpay/research/pdf/IDS_Report_2008_11_3_09-final.pdf
I’ve no great problem with a High Pay Commission – it’s only a Commission, after all – but I fear the energy put into this area may detract from the more important issue of lowpaid workers continuing to be lowpaid and getting even more low paid relative not just to the ‘masters of the universe’ but to those only a little higher up the income ladder.
I could of course propose solutions more radical than pushing the Low Pay Commission to up its recommended rates, or even supporting the Living Wage campaigns which have come about directly because the NMW Act’s positive impact has tailed off, but I think you might like them even less than the idea of a High Pay Commission.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:58 am
@Mark
I agree, the ludicrous thing is that no-one forces Labour into these policy positions. Tony Blair essentially created a new party, he could have made his central policies anything he wanted to. But instead New Labour has broken promise after promise.
anyone remember education, education, eduction……..
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:59 am
I have no problem with a cap on banks which are in the public sector. We own them, we are their employers and I’d rather £1M be spent on repaying their debt than going to the staff. Bit unfair on Lloyds (as it wasn’t in trouble until the ludicrous buy-out) but perhaps it should think more about it’s shareholders.
Private banks though are private. Government should have no say in what happens here. Wonder how long it would take to relocate a bank operation if the tax regime were to oppressive ?
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 11:15 am
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Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 11:20 am
Surely it would just result in one of the biggest redomicilings in history? Tax revenues would dry up overnight.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 11:28 am
100% agree with you, Tom. If we cease to be the party of aspiration we cease to be a party fit for government.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 11:29 am
When I got to the words “national maximum wage” I feared the worst .. .. .. it’s a phrase that I’ve seen a few times, usually connected to “does anyone deserve to earn more than the Prime Minister (£197,000)?”
I read on though and I’m glad I did. NmaxW is a very bad idea IMO as it would cap the aspirations of those who need the encouragement the most.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 11:58 am
You’re espousing a number of uncomfortable home truths, sir.
It’s as if you want the grassroots to hate you.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 12:03 pm
Tom, banks only allocate capital, goverments (with a State monopoly of money) control its supply.
The banks could only play with the excess of cheap liquidity hosed at them as a result of Gordon Brown’s policies. Along with other central banks in Europe and the US.
Until you and yours start to recognise this no-one except your core vote will believe a word you say.
Oh, and the minimum wage has not ‘levelled up’, it’s destroyed jobs and opportunity, which is the same thing as matching the price of labour on the minimum wage to market forces. You and yours have been rushing about hosing billions of our cash at various dubious yoof employment and makework schemes to hide this.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 12:29 pm
@captainff: I’m inclined to think that MOST people should earn more than the Prime Minister, since putting him on performance related pay would violate the minimum wage. Then again, I’ve felt for a long time that politics should not be allowed to become a career, with term limits and MPs expected to have actual careers before and after Parliament…
I would support applying a maximum wage cap to *public sector* jobs – as indeed the US already does, barring any government employee from getting more than either a Senator or the President (I can’t remember which off-hand). I don’t know if any current government salaries exceed this, but I do recall some alarmingly high salaries quoted for the heads of quangos recently.
For the private sector, though, forget it. Others have already covered the reasons well enough, I think: it would be counter-productive in every way, driving business elsewhere and reducing the tax-base, so why even consider it?
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 12:55 pm
Quite agree Tom. A sensible, succinct and common sense post. Such a refreshing change from the blindly envious bile that normally oozes from Labour’s corpse politik. Wonder if they’ll take note over at LabourLost?
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 1:08 pm
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Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 1:19 pm
Would your salary be capped, Tom; with your extremely generous pension arrangements, your annual salary is over £80k per annum, making you amongst the top 3% of earners in the country.
I assume ALL MPs will be being taxed at the new 50% rate as a result of this?
Ha bloody ha.
The envy that underscores NL “politics” revolts.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 1:32 pm
Tom,
I disagree – and also think you are overlooking an important part of the history of New Labour – and a very New Labour case for proper scrutiny of pay at the top. Yes, New Labour was for the minimum wage. It was also keen to challenge ‘rewards for failure’ in unmerited executive pay and the windfall profits of privatised utilities.
I can’t see how a maximum wage would be workable at all – but I don’t see why scrutiny of high pay would lead to one.
Is there really a New Labour argument against effective transparency and scrutiny of the highest paid in public and private sectors?
I don’t think regulating bonuses is necessarily about cheap crowd-pleasing. If financial stability remains a New Labour principle, there is a need to ensure the systemic risks created by perverse incentives in the City bonus system, are addressed given the clear evidence from the Bank of England (well summarised here by Robert Peston) that the enormous shift in City renumeration in the two decades since 1986 was not wealth-generating.
Since the losses have now been socialised, this is all the more urgent and important if the government is going to bail out banks which make losing bets they can’t cover.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 3:47 pm
What a nice article! Good to see there is some sense still in the Left – I was beginning to despair after seeing LibCon’s piece on unemployment this morning… http://bit.ly/1LD37O
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 3:53 pm
Big bonuses at banks are here to stay until one of the big banks is allowed to go bust and the rest rein in their policies.
Or you could properly regulate the financial institutions so that the RISK department bonuses are not based on company profitablility but on the level of risk. And give risk departments more say over the running of the company than the brokers.
You could hire some (costly) bright sparks to work for the regulators rather than have MScs at the FSA using calculators to look over PHD work at investment banks built using multi-million pound super-computers.
Just a thought.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 4:30 pm
I think the problem is that Labour have exacerbated the problem where the not very wealthy are paying proportionately higher tax than the stinking rich.
I have no problem with taxing the wealthy quite heavily – I thought our 50% for incomes over £100,000 was good.
I don’t want to go back to the days of 80%+ taxation because I see the need for incentive and innovation and enterprise, but I have no problem with a mildly redistributive policy, especially if it helps take some people out of taxation altogether.
I really, really don’t think that bankers in institutions like RBS that are now owned by the taxpayer should have the huge salaries and bonuses that they have previously enjoyed and I think that this is one area where Labour have failed. What’s the point of bailing these institutions out if they can’t be put on a more sustainable footing?
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 5:45 pm
Mr. Katwala, although there is a valid point to be made about the the perverse incentive structure created by bonuses, surely the danger is that a High Pay Commission would result in over-emphasising this aspect of the financial crisis at the expense of the other systemic issues?
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 5:54 pm
@Paul Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 3:53 pm
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Big bonuses at banks are here to stay until one of the big banks is allowed to go bust and the rest rein in their policies.
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Of course they will, as Brown needs that tax from these guys. We don’t have an economy as such, rather income from financial services and spending based on wild house inflation.
Given that Gordon’s credo whilst he was out there saving the world was to return borrowing to the levels of April 2007, we will see this type of crash sooner rather than later.
A rare case of Brown being frank, it would seem, in stating his avowed intent to crash us again.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 6:27 pm
Arguably the opening example is also typical of New Labour in that the difference between abolishing 1st class & abolishing 2nd class to achieve a classless railroad is simply a matter of spin. The results of which can be seen currently when everybody in school is getting an A.
To be fair the journalist was also asking the sort of “have you stopped beating your wife” question they always do & which encourages such answers.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 7:12 pm
“As disgraceful and unjustifiable as these bonuses were/are, they did not lead directly to the banks’ bankruptcy. Poor lending and investment decisions and reckless risk-taking did.”
Hence the bankers should lose their performance-related bonuses for doing a rubbish job. I seem to recall Network Rail keeps on being the centre of the same debate (particularly after the Rugby debacle of Christmas 2007) – not a case of people working hard and not getting paid enough, but people getting astronomical sums for apparently doing stuff-all. It’s a job that we all aspire to, but I fail to see why it should be encouraged. I have no problems with management keeping fat bonuses when they prepare for the worst but their company has to be nationalised anyway.
As an aside, I believe that as RBS had signed a contract entitling Sir Fred Goodwin to his silly pension whatever happened he should have got it.
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 8:49 pm
Sorry, but the bit you describe from “A Very British Coup” is socialism, the thing your party got rid of to gain power in 1997. Had that been a New Labour minister, his retort would have been “No, and i’m going to make them pay double to stay second class”
Tuesday 18 August 2009 at 10:10 pm
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Wednesday 19 August 2009 at 8:49 am
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Wednesday 19 August 2009 at 10:00 am
I’m not with you on this, Tom. My instincts are very “new”, too: I’m not coming from an “old Labour” direction, and I’m not after the “core vote”. But we have a real problem with inequality in Britain today, and as Harriet Harman argued in her deputy leadership campaign, that’s not the same as saying we have a problem with poverty. I think Labour has to tackle both.
Very high pay for the so-called top people has got to a point where there’s no real relationship to merit or “aspiration” – top footballers have everything they want anyway, and feel no effect whatever from getting yet another £10k a week. It’s pure greed and keeping up with others. And the sums these people receive do affect the rest of us negatively, as the pull at the top of the housing market, say, contributes to unsustainable booms that load debt on to the less well off, and ends with many of them losing their homes.
More equality would be better for us all, as the work of the Equality Trust is showing, and I think making everyone “feel better” in the sense of being happier is a perfectly sound basis for policy.
Wednesday 19 August 2009 at 1:54 pm
And when any party starts producing policy “to secure the core vote”, it might as well write of the next election, go quietly into opposition right now and start thinking about the election after next.
Now you’re getting the idea, Tom. And the only thing that could possibly save you from this fate is getting rid of Brown and Harman, stat.
Anyway, will you be taking your seat on the opposition benches, or are you pitching for a job at Civitas now?
AJ
Friday 21 August 2009 at 8:30 am
Interestingly enough, there’s a marxist argument against wage capping. Marx tells us that the employee is always having some of his production skimmed off by the capitalist- that is, “surplus value”. This is the definition, under marxism, of exploitation; that is, the worker is receiving less than they have produced for the company. So, if you cap the employee’s wages, you’re actually increasing the surplus value that goes to the capitalist- that is, you increase exploitation.
If a worker has been paid £1M, we know that she has produced at least £1M of value for her capitalist employer- perhaps £2M. Under Marxian economics, she should receive more, not less, to fairly reflect her actual level of production.
Friday 21 August 2009 at 3:50 pm
Typical olden Labour idea, striding confidently forward to the seventies.
Still, they mean well.
I think.
Tuesday 25 August 2009 at 6:13 pm
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