EVERY year there are calls for parliament to be recalled.
It’s happened twice since I was first elected: in the aftermath of 9/11 and in February 2002, after the Queen Mother’s death.
It’s quite a dramatic event when it occurs, and although there isn’t usually a vote during recall debates, there’s usually a good turnout of colleagues eager to be part of a historic occasion.
The only problem with recalls is that if they happen too often, the the standard needing to be met to justify it could be lowered. For example, in 2002, a publicity-hungry nationalist MSP demanded the recall of the Scottish Parliament because Scotland’s economy (he claimed) was in recession. It wasn’t, and the economy is largely reserved to Westminster, but you see my point?
Every year, there’s always someone who’s first out of the stocks, demanding a recall. This year’s winner is John Redwood, who has today written to the Prime Minister demanding as much. Libya and the release of Al-Megrahi seem to be his principle reasons. But he also has a shopping list of other concerns up his sleeve: quantative easing and the economy, the NHS, Afghanistan and the nature of the devolution settlement. He also cites the need to debate “several good (select) committee reports” published since the recess started.
Phew!
Now, these are all important issues, of course, but because something is important doesn’t necessarily mean it justifies a recall.
Interestingly, John also tell the PM: “Since we last were permitted to do our jobs…”, as if MPs need Gordon Brown’s permission to be MPs. I certainly don’t, and have been working for my constituents during the recess, as have, I’m sure, virtually all MPs. Obviously JR feels he can’t do his job as an MP unless he’s speaking in the chamber of the House of Commons.
That’s not the view of most MPs (of all parties). Even if parliament is not recalled, that shouldn’t (and doesn’t) affect MPs’ ability to represent our constituents and debate issues of importance, even if that debate takes place on the internet, where (shock! horror!) non-parliamentarians can respond and take part instead of simply watching it on BBC Parliament.














Monday 24 August 2009 at 12:37 pm
Nice try Tom.
The job of an MP (by which I mean a task that can be accomplished by no other member of society) is to hold the Government to account, and the mechanism to achieve that is debate in Parliament.
You can’t do that “on the Internet” as there is compunction for the Government to get involved.
Gordon Brown has refused thus far to even express an opinion on the Lockerbie release, much less get involved in debate.
Shameful.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 12:43 pm
Except that the Queen Mother died on 30 March 2002
Monday 24 August 2009 at 12:47 pm
Ah… yes, well, I may have misremembered that one. Must have been Easter recess and not mid-term. Sorry.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 12:56 pm
Calling HMG to account is one of the most important functions of an MP, but it is rarely appropriate to be as dramatic as most tory bloggers may imagine:
“In the name of God, (no, is that blasphemous?) Errrm, well I say thee begone, no-one likes any of you errrr . . . .”
Where upon descent into various trouser words can be expected.
Redwood, off course, just wants to accentuate that he is more thrusting than Chameleon. Boring.
He still doesn’t know better.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 1:08 pm
Tom: “where (shock! horror!) non-parliamentarians can respond and take part instead of simply watching it on BBC Parliament.”
Except, Tom, you don’t like it when anyone disagrees with you and you end up hurling abuse at them.
Or do you favour one of those Commons debates where we all strongly agree that MP’s are all doing a grand job ?
Monday 24 August 2009 at 2:05 pm
I see no reason why Parliament should be recalled at all.
If the general public can vote on X Factor, they can vote on bills themselves.
The day of the elected representative is coming to an end.
And it is scaring the 646 *hitless.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 2:32 pm
Bottom line is we need a general election. We have this lame duck government who must want to give up on the mess they have made. They have no idea what to do next as they have not got the bottle to slash the spending that will have to be done. So they will leave it to the Conservatives and then do what they do best. Carp from the sidelines. Labour have never ever been fit to govern this country as they have proved again.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 2:35 pm
Triffid may be under some transspecie delusion re “Hurling” and “abuse.”
Try: http://quietzapples.blogspot.com/ where I have a set of Tory ones which may assist, especially:
http://quietzapples.blogspot.com/2009/05/campaign-of-tory-abuse-and-libels-1.html
Old Holborn would find insuperable difficulty in understanding most of the votes in Parliament. It would be unwise to rely on the media, most of it subservient to the interests of billionaires, for a comprehension lesson.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 3:15 pm
Quietzapple: I am under no delusions whatsoever regarding MP’s and abuse hurling.
I couldn’t care less whether it’s a Labour or Tory or Liberal MP – it’s all wrong. And they are all as bad as each other. And they all seek to stifle debate.
However, Tom calling for debate from the proletariat is rather like Stalin saying he listens to salt miners (Yes, Tom – I’m referring to your “libertarian” voting record.)
Monday 24 August 2009 at 3:39 pm
Parliament should not be recalled because of this. End of! This is a Scottish Parliament issue one, not a Westminster one.
I cannot help but laugh at the fools who are trying to pin the blame on Gordon Brown. They failed to do that, so now they’re trying to have a go at him for not saying much. Talk about desperate!
Monday 24 August 2009 at 3:55 pm
It appears to me after 12 years of Labour we are just out of control. no one has any idea what to do next.
I have nver known Britain like it.
What a shambolic mess.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 4:04 pm
Magic bath.
As it affects UK’s external relations with other countries, it affects foreign policy.
What powers has Holyrood over foreign policy?
None.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 4:13 pm
The Scottish Parliament has been recalled to allow MSPs to question MacAskill.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/policing-and-crime/scottish-parliament-recalled-over-lockerbie-decision-$1320784.htm
Releasing Al-Megrahi has caused a lot of international grumbling, and the Foreign Secretary sits in Westminster, not Edinburgh.
Perhaps you could explain why Milliband should not be questioned by MPs from all over Britain, on behalf of their electorate?
Could you also explain why our Prime Minister should not be asked to explain matters to Parliament, especially as the impact will be felt throughout the UK.
This isn’t a solely Scottish business, and the questions should be answered before October.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 4:21 pm
“I cannot help but laugh at the fools who are trying to pin the blame on Gordon Brown. They failed to do that, so now they’re trying to have a go at him for not saying much. Talk about desperate!”
I personally don’t think they have failed at all. I think both GB and PM have a lot of explaining to do as both have met with Gadaffi(s) recently.
Since it’s the UK, not just Scotland who will benefit greatly from the trade deals that according to Gadaffi have been agreed on the back of this, it makes it a UK issue.
The fact that our Prime Minister has stayed quiet on the issue speaks volumes.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 4:39 pm
I agree that Parliamentary recalls are, and should remain a big deal.
What I take away from J Redwood’s letter is a sense of frustration at increasingly long recesses of Parliament while the rest of the world carries on. Hence the ‘laundry list’ of issues.
I understand that recesses give MP’s time with their families, and that they are a chance to re-connect with goings on in their constituencies. I also realise that MPs carry on with constituency work and deserve a ‘holiday’.
However, the length of recesses seems to be creeping up recently and parliament is, or should be, more effective at holding the executive to account than the internet.
Basically, eighty two days seems an awfully big gap to me. If I had my way I’d cut it from twelve weeks to eight.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 4:44 pm
The fact is, though, Parliament could debate the issue for the next 2 days.. and it will be a complete waste of time.
In my view, Parliament is bust.. and I cannot see any political party fixing it.. or even worse seriously wanting to fix it..
So a debate would be a complete waste of time as it would achieve zip.
Party machines control it.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 5:13 pm
I’m with the Vulcan Redwood on this one.
I wrote about it here, “Get back here now, Gordon” earlier today, and summed up thus:
“Remember, McBroon: you work for us. If you were a senior manager in a real f*****g business (although Christ knows how you’d manage that) you wouldn’t be allowed to disappear on holiday for weeks and weeks, particularly if the company was going through a series of major crises, largely of your making.”
“Get your sorry arse back to Westminster, and get on with your f*****g job.”
Don’t suppose you could pass the message on, could you?
Monday 24 August 2009 at 5:54 pm
Wouldn’t this be a non issue if MP’s had the same sort of holidays as real people?.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 8:01 pm
There were actually 2 recalls of parliament in 2002. One in april 2002 for the death of the Queen Mother and one in september to discuss Iraq and WMDs.
And strictly speaking parliament was recalled 3 times in 2001 to discuss 9/11 and international terrorism, once on the 14th Sep,once on the 4th Oct and again on the 8th.
Monday 24 August 2009 at 11:17 pm
I think Parliament should sit all year round, with a recess of a week maybe for Christmas. And MPs would, like the rest of us, be give five, six , even seven weeks “leave” to be taken as and when they want or need to. Parliament is not school, and why it has to revolve around school terms baffles me. As does the recall for the death of the Queen Mother. What was to discuss?
Tuesday 25 August 2009 at 4:03 pm
I think Gordon Brown should be released on compassionate grounds.
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