IN THE week of the LibDem conference, I thought it appropriate to review this blog’s previous policy of being mean to the lentil munchers.
And then I thought: nah, why bother…?
This is an ad for a conference fringe meeting today, and I just thought I’d take this opportunity to point out that Tim Farron, nice chap though he is, cannot be described as Shadow Minister for anything, since he is not a member of the Conservative front bench.
The term “shadow” is a formal title given to the largest opposition party’s front bench spokespersons. LibDems need not apply.
(Now, who do you think will be the first psephological “expert” to predict that the LibDems will indeed be the largest opposition party after the election? Any guesses…?)















Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 12:42 pm
Cutting edge blogging Tom, keep it up old boy
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 12:43 pm
Cheers!
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 12:45 pm
It is part of the same delusion which leads them to pretend that they are a “main party”.
As with so much else in life, the more insignificant a person is, the more they try to fluff themselves.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 12:48 pm
To quote from the prior thread:
I’ve been taught not to mock those who suffer from disadvantages of birth, colour , religion or political affiliation.
Oh.. he’s a Libdem politician?
That’s all right then .. go right ahead
Don’t be unfair to the LibDems for they don’t know what they are doing…
Tim Farron is a LibDem .., errr political functionary and is even more useless than the current Environment Minister whose name and achievements are on everyone’s lips.. especially the farmers.
irony and sarcasm rating: 150%
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 1:22 pm
But aren’t these the same libdems who want to be labour’s partner in a coalition government?
You may have to pretend to like the party to the left of labour
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 1:46 pm
Perhaps we could acknowledge that the second biggest ‘party’ at the next election will be the non-voters.
In fact, those either not willing or not able to take part in our democratic process will probably make up over 50% of the population.
Incidentally, why is there not a box at the bottom saying something along the lines of: “None of the above candidates represent my views sufficiently to give them my vote.” I’d tick that one. Much better than spoiling your paper or not showing up.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 1:59 pm
Cutting edge blogging indeed. Had it not been for this post, the tumbleweed would have, erm, tumbled across the vast wastes of tomharris.org.uk, belying the distant storms of controversy emanating from Scotland (not the place) and Calais (yes, the place)
Alan Johnson (the darling of this blog) has “welcomed a “decisive” French raid on a makeshift camp in Calais known as the “jungle, according to The Telegraph.
Meanwhile, the Prime Minister has made one of his now familiar disappearing acts – anything it seems, to avoid being here – and Tom is mounting a Pedant’s Revolt.
mm.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 2:18 pm
I don’t understand why you don’t like them Tom. After all, are they that different from your lot ideologically? You even share the same trait of having party names that contradict behaviour. Labour does nothing to represent those who work for a living and the Liberals are confirmed control freaks. Perhaps you should merge and re-introduce the SDP. You could then continue to be Anti-social and undemocratic.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 3:03 pm
When people get called “Honourable” and “Right Honourable” without any justification surely he can be called a “Shadow”?
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 3:59 pm
Heard one of them – Chris Hume I think it was – trying to savage Eric Pickles on the Today programme. They don’t really try to hide their nasty streak, do they?
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 4:18 pm
Have I misread the heading?
Is it “Love bombing the LibDems” as in . . .
“I really do enjoy ‘bombing’ the hell out of the Liberal Democrats”
Or am I missing something? (as usual, cuh!)
Tom, we missed you . . . have you been away booking your Brighton Hotel for the coming jollity that is The Labour Conference?
Have missed your insight into Baroness Scotland – can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the matter.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 6:58 pm
Tom
I am a Labour party member and do not feel it is grown up or professional of you to refer to anyone as a ‘lentil muncher’.
What kind of message does that send to people? That we make fun of people who may follow an alternative diet such as vegetarianism or veganism?
By all means criticise the Liberals for their policies but dont use such schoolboy type language which is frankly demeaning and embarrasing.I am a vegetarian and I know of many fellow vegetarians and vegans who have left our party or no longer support it. Your demeaning use of language certainly wont help endear us to anyone.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 7:23 pm
Andrew Neil addressed one of the Lib Dem nutters as a Shadow “something” last night, everyone should jolly well tell him off.
But in the mean time am enjoying the train wreck that is lib dem conference! Oh deary dear it all started so well for them.
And then they went and spoiled it all by saying something stupid like I’ll tax youuuuu.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 7:26 pm
@Chris Gale
But do you wear the open toed sandals and tie-dyed scarfs of the true libdem whilst mucnching your lentils
Amazing what you can do with veggies, lentils included if you know how to cook them properly.
Almost seriously, I don’t think Tom fears the libdems very much, the numpties on the other hand may keep him awake at night.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 7:29 pm
@Chris Gale
Grow up or gain a sense of humour (unless of course your comment was meant as irony in which case I apologise)
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 7:49 pm
@ Paul.
It’s quite unlikely that the total share of the franchise that choose to vote in the next general election will be below 60% and is more likely to reach into the low 70’s. Quite respectable by Western standards.
Ironically it’s where the public perceive a democratic deficit (‘it doesn’t matter who i vote for’) or where the public view the result as largely foregone that you get the lowest turnouts.
Personally i’ve always favoured a weighted compulsory system for some time. All citizens are required to cast a vote and extra votes are provided for people who’ve passed increasingly advanced courses on political education.
Tuesday 22 September 2009 at 10:15 pm
Curious how whenever silly unhelpful comments are challenged the only reply is ‘to get a sense of humour.’
I have one thanks. How about you get a sense of responsibility and a sense of how this kind of stuff just makes us look bad and damages us further.
Calling people ‘lential munchers’ is not grown up politics, its pathetic and insulting.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 7:05 am
Vegetarians have voluntarily placed themselves lower on the food-chain. I propose we hunt and eat them.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 9:08 am
Richard,
I am a vegetarian, and I agree. We are an annoying, preachy bunch of sh*ts. I suggest poaching us, because there’s not enough fat to get a decent roast.
Regards,
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 10:24 am
I’m disgusted by the childish comments, not just by a Labour MP who should know better, but some of those posting on this website.
Perhaps if some of you stopped making your stomaches a grave-yard you wouldn’t look like a sack of sh** when you reach a certain age.
And before you accuse me of being a sandal wearing hippie, I’m happy to say I dress classy and look and feel years younger than my biological age. Take a look at Clarissa Dickson Wright and you’ll see the effect eating meat has on the body – she’s grotesque!!!!!
Thank God my husband a former shooter is now a vegan too because I’d rather be with a compassionate lental munching partner, than a foul breathed old fart.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 10:32 am
“old”?
Actually, I did dry going veggie for a while a few years ago. I lasted about a month. Now I’m comfortable with the compromise: I still eat meat but I feel guilty about it.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 11:35 am
http://failblog.org/2009/06/29/bulletin-board-win/
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 1:38 pm
@Chris Gale Calling people ‘lential munchers’ is not grown up politics, its pathetic and insulting.
Of course it’s not grown-up politics, but it was funny (well at least to me). Are relatively puerile juvenile jokes no longer allowed in politics? Boo no fun!
Are you suggesting that we should instead spend all of our time, stroking our chins, have deep furrowed brows and saying; ‘what does it all mean?’
I do have a sense of responsibility thanks, but I’m sorry; if Tom calling an opposition party a bunch (is that the right collective noun?) of ‘lentil munchers’ exercises you that much; then you need to recalibrate your sense of priorities.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 1:50 pm
FWIW, the term “lentil munchers” was intended as a reference to LibDems, not vegetarians.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 1:51 pm
“The term “shadow” is a formal title given to the largest opposition party’s front bench spokespersons. LibDems need not apply.”
Tom, you’re wrong. Unless the official Parliament website is not, erm, official enough for you: http://tiny.cc/uJKXB
Grown-up blogging: Labour MPs need not apply.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 3:12 pm
The way things are going we might all have to become ‘lentil munchers’ to feed the projected 14-18 billion people that need feeding in the next 50 years.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 5:17 pm
@ Jonathan.Campbell
I was thinking of a nice roast with goose fat.
Puts me in mind of an article i read in the dead-tree press a few years ago that said that over 90% of vegetarians surveyed admitted to having eaten meat at least once in the previous six months and that the eatery of choice for more than 50% of those was MacDonalds.
Wednesday 23 September 2009 at 5:24 pm
The commonest cause of death on earth, by a factor of billions, is being eaten alive.
Meat eating is the natural state, here on earth. And at least humans kill their victims first.
But there is no avoiding the fact that the destruction of one animal to support another is difficult to accept in moral terms.
Believers say it’s just God’s plan. Which makes you profoundly grateful that he doesn’t exist.
But even a daffodil shares 30% of our DNA, so Chesterton may have been quite near exposing the dilemma when he asked, humorously, what right we had to shed the green blood of vegetables.
Thursday 24 September 2009 at 8:29 pm
I don’t think anyone seriously expects the libdems to become the official opposition. They’ll be lucky to get 55 seats at the GE whereas I expect (and have a small wager on) Labour to get between 190-200. The socks and sandals brigade wiil just have to keep on shovelling in those lentils, they’ll be nowhere near the red meat of government for a long time. And don’t feel guilty about eating meat Tom, man evolved as a hunter gatherer and if it wasn’t for the excess protein that our early ancestors skills at hunting were able to provide our brains and subsequently our intelligence wouldn’t have developed as it did.
Thursday 24 September 2009 at 8:37 pm
I rarely eat anything these days that didn’t once have parents. Yum!
Monday 2 November 2009 at 10:02 am
Tom Harris – you are so childish – it’s scary!
Is this what adults have become?
God help future generations with people like you as role models.
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