And Another Thing…

YouGov’s daily poll has their lead down too, and both major parties gaining at the expense of the minor ones.

This will be the election which shatters the Lib-Dems.

David Milliband is right, a 1945 moment in prospect. AND people prefer Labour to the Conservatives in principle:

http://url.ie/2kb9 The only serious caution for David Cameron comes with a question that forces voters to choose between Labour or the Conservatives: “44 per cent would still prefer a Labour government and 42 per cent a Conservative one. This is despite 72 per cent dissatisfaction with Labour.”

Cameron clearly has not got the support of voters and should be replaced.

By their abuse do we know them.

So, Labour will merely be crushed, rather than obliterated.

Damn. I’m not sure if I can live with that.

The bigger question is who on Earth is still voting Labour and what have they been drinking that they think that that’s a good idea?

people prefer Labour to the Conservatives in principle

Strange principle, most people say they won’t be voting for labour.

A majority of 140 is, of course, to be preferred over one of only 70.
Mr Cameron will be totally downcast by this.

I’m afraid that Labour’s dead cat is bouncing on a trampoline. I suggest that the kinetic energy will will run out in about 3 weeks’ time. The polls at the end of October will give a much truer picture, and the mere fact that you are bigging up a prediction of a 70 seat Tory majority as a gain for Labour demonstrates a certain desperation. The size of the rump of the Labour Party will depend largely on whether Brown can keep the IMF at bay until after May next year. If you bother to read the recent report, rather than the selective offerings of the MSM, you’d be very afraid too.

You can’t help laughing at today’s Tories (well I can’t, it’s better than crying). For the past decade they’ve been blathering on about decentralising Britain and giving power to local people but, as they slowly reveal what they might be, their policies invariably seek to centralise control and/or to impose their own curious standards on us all.

For example, Mr Lansley was on the wireless this morning talking about an insurance scheme for old folk. Were it to be implemented, people would only be permitted to go into a residential home if they met certain national criteria. The same criteria in Carlisle and Brighton.

No wonder their support is flaky…

@ Chris Wills

Not so. More people say they would vote Tory if there was an election tomorrow than say they would vote labour.

However in that Times Poll quoted on Cons Home to which I referred the question was “Would you prefer a Labour or a Conservative Government?”

The usual question is taken by many respondents as an opportunity to kick whomever they dislike and any Government is likely to be top of their list.

Last June we Britons preferred a Labour Government to a Conservative one. Tory Trolls who think they can count chickens . . .

Not exactly encouraging but at least it’s a start.

If you look on ConHome, the nutters are on about Europe again.

If they make a big fuss (I’m a don’t know), they will turn off voters and inspire some voters to go elsewhere.. (LD?)

I have every confidence in the likes of Lord Tebbitt to screw things up.

A majority of one is all that’s required for the Conservatives to start dismantling Labour’s grander follies.

On top of that there will be broad support for scrapping the ID card scheme, the national database and most of Blair and Brown’s more grotesque creations.

@Richard 9.01am – so this article is another own goal by Labour:

http://www.labourlist.org/drinkers-licences-a-radical-new-way-to-curb-excess-cowan

Since LabourList is a humour-free zone I take it he’s serious….

Tom, Has the the swear word in the comment from Obnoxio at 8:38 slipped un-noticed through moderation?

Yep, good news for Labour at a UK level. And a Scottish level.

But the poll also says that an 11% increase in the national vote for the SNP will yield, wait for it, an extra TWO of the 59 MPs available.

While a drop of 6% for the Lib Dems will see them win an extra 1 MP.

Something doesn’t stack up there…

http://www.snptacticalvoting.com/2009/10/politicshome-poll-of-scottish-marginals.html

Jay, More of what made them so unpopular in the first place – they just don’t get it – change my backside!

Don’t worry Tom that’s good enough
and paid for by the owner of the conservative party Lord Ashcroft

Could be worse… no, not really.

I seem to recall that the Conservative party (so called) lost to Labour in terms of seats won in England the past three Westminster parliamentary elections.

But many try to believe several impossible things before their football teams are carried out on on stretchers most saturdays we have seen . . .

@Quitzapple
Not so. More people say they would vote Tory if there was an election tomorrow than say they would vote labour.

However in that Times Poll quoted on Cons Home to which I referred the question was “Would you prefer a Labour or a Conservative Government?”

I’m not claiming that the responses have been reported incorrectly, just that they show a disjoint in thinking.

Why should a majority who claim to prefer labour say they won’t vote for them? Doesn’t matter if it is today or tomorrow or in May 2010.

Then again perhaps you’re dreaming of labour being re-elected, I suspect that is in the same ligical arena as two jags’ “Going Fourth”.

I’m guessing he didn’t mean that labour will come 4th in the election. Even I don’t see that happening, though it would be nice.

Thanks Tom as its still a win.

@ Chris Wall

The point is that the different questions mean different things and people rightly interpret them differently.

People (in June 2009) would like to have a Labour Government rather than a Tory one. Those were the two options offered.

The other question is about their imagined actions the next day. People are less inclined to take such a question without care and attention as it were, for there is to be no election tomorrow.

Chameleon’s latest ditherings re a Referendum on Europe include his doubts about the great difficulty for him to win an election from the current parliamentary position.

Perhaps you would like to offer him your advice on the situation on Cons Home, as he lacks your certainty it seems?