And another thing…

How is the energy generation policy going, Tom ?

Ahh, you lot haven’t got around to doing anything yet, have you ?

Still at least you’re nice and refreshed from not doing anything these past 3 months.

You really have got a thing about ‘roofs’ & ‘ceilings’ haven’t you Tom . . . but never mind all that now!

Did you get a letter?

And do you need us to organise a whip round on your behalf?

Amen, Brother!

I understand that Piers Corbyn (brother of your colleague Jeremy) is to make an important announcement on ‘global cooling/warming’ at the end of November.

It would seem that the world has been cooling since 1998 and will continue to do so for another twenty/thirty years.

Piers will annouce his findings that solar charged particles are almost solely responsible for the warming for which we have now created an industry to redress.

It seems evident from Piers findings,that man has had little impact on bringing about global warming and will have little or no effect in reversing it in the future, as it remains a natural cyclical process.

So before you go off and join the Greens and save the world, have a listen to what Piers Corbyn has to say.

You did get that I was joking, right, Mel?

Honestly Mel!

You should know by now that none of Tom’s posts are meant to be taken seriously.

Tom

Excellent point! I had briefly forgotten how reprehensible it is when people make non-violent protest. It is of course essential that these protests don’t involve anything as shockingly immoral as trespassing! What was really annoying was that awful waste of police time – I keep forgetting that they Houses of Parliament usually have no police presence at all, so many extra police had to be drafted into the area to deal with the protest. If only the protestors had instead held a march or a static demonstration – these are, of course, activities that demand no police supervision and you will see no police oversight at such an event.

The most important thing about a protest is, of course, to for one to make as little a spectacle of oneself as possible, and act in a staid fashion, attracting as little attention as is possible.

I remember being particularly incensed by Greenpeace when they occupied the Brent Spar oil storage rig (another shameless example of trespass!). They did, of course, have no impact at all on Shell’s disposal strategy (the platform was, as we all can no doubt recall, disposed of at see as Shell had always intended). They would have had much more success with a strongly worded letter to the Times and their MP. Clearly world climate change is much less important than the disposal of an oil platform, so their actions are even more ludicrous.

Of course, given the staggering progress that has been made to reducing our demand for electricity, developing new sources of power and reducing our dependence on unstable oil supplies one must wonder why anyone would have any cause to protest!

Tom

It might be a waste of police time if they were actually doing anything about it.

What does it say of the state of our democracy when police fail to remove eco-terrorists from our legislature? They firstly shouldn’t have got anywhere near the place, after that they should have been removed by any means.

If a bunch of muesli-eating yoghurt-drinking lentil-munchers can manage this, there’s no doubt a Pakistani-trained Al Qaeda operative could easily do much worse.

You mean you weren’t really thinking of switching to the Greens?

Damnation!

@Tom Page
I remember being particularly incensed by Greenpeace when they occupied the Brent Spar oil storage rig (another shameless example of trespass!). They did, of course, have no impact at all on Shell’s disposal strategy (the platform was, as we all can no doubt recall, disposed of at see as Shell had always intended).

I’m glad you were incensed.
You obviouslly know that greenpiece weren’t telling the truth. All that nasty pollution they claimed was in the spar and Shell denied. Well guess who was telling the truth and who was knowingly not being honest.

If the Spar had been disposed of in the deep trench as Shell proposed perhaps the deaths involved in turning it into a pier wouldn’t have occured.

Greenpeace have knowingly told untruths since day one, they even admit it but claim it is for the greater good. Whose good, their bank accounts of course (they aren’t all volunteers) and the top ones are on a par with MPs at claiming expenses I suspect.

No flying cattle class for greenpiss, well not for the leaders.

Is it legal to protest in front of the Houses Of Parliament without a written letter of consent from a Chief Constable giving at least 7 days notice of the date of intended protest?

While I happen to disagree with this groups policies and methods we really don’t give people much of a chance to voice their concerns in a manner that allows for the general public to hear about it without the ‘filter’ of the editorials in the newspapers and/or the lies, damn lies and statistics from politicians.

Is it true you can be arrested for saying bad things at Speaker’s Corner? Is it true the media and politicians have been complicit in silencing the (vile) BNP from the public debate over the past few years? Have senior government ministers lied about the contents of certain embarrasing documents to try to stop them leaking out to the media and the public?

Hmmm… that turned into a bit of a rant

Some great posts again here Tom.Where do these people come from. do you have any high powered fire hoses in the Commons. I think they could do with testing.

For the benifit of some of Toms readers

ONLY JOKING.( well not really )

Perhaps Labour colleagues who are MPs could smarten up their websites as many contain little if anything on green issues… It may not have registered that large numbers of people who go to their Labour MPs website to see what they say on green issues come away dissapointed unfortunately.

Even the beeb has had to admit that the world just isn’t warming.
It seems that thermageddon won’t destroy us all.

(someone else can post the link for me )

I expect to see the same scientists blaming increased CO2 for “global cooling” in ten years time and saying that we must do something to warm the earth to prevent an ice age.

The figure I’d like to see is the percentage contribution of the UK’s emissions on the world’s total.

And then I’d like to see what the effect of cutting our emissions to plan will have on our own economy.

And then, making the very reasonable assumption that we’ll have nuclear fusion within thiry years, whether it is worth it.

@Chris

….Labour MPs website to see what they say on green issues come away dissapointed unfortunately

But Tom isn’t interested in kick the ba’ :p

@Liberanos

And then, making the very reasonable assumption that we’ll have nuclear fusion within thiry years, whether it is worth it

That’s the same reasonable estimate that was being quoted 30 years ago, fusion is a lot more complicated than first thought.

Fission is the way to go, some of the proposed 4th generation plants can use what we presently store as waste and fast breeders are fairly stable and reliable old technology.

The only problem is that most of the UK nuclear engineers are retired or elsewhere and westinghouse has a full order book from China.

I guess we’ll have to make nice with the Canadians and ask if they’ll let us use their CANDU technology and borrow a few of their engineers to design/build them.
http://www.nucleartourist.com/type/candu.htm

Electric car owners make me laugh. Unless your electricity comes from solar panels or wind then it’s no better for the environment than petrol or diesel.

Well, yes they are wrong, but we don’t necessarily know that, do we? That is not the point. The point is that about 100 years ago, Women were being very silly about the vote. The same kind of pain in the arse that these people are being.

It’s very British and very democratic.

Now stop being so precious and prissy.

Greenpeace need a more upbeat slogan.

Something like ‘Things can only get better’…

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My, you have started something here Tom. Just say green and they all come out of the woodwork with their hocus pocus and doom laden comments. For my health please remove any green messages as I am sick and tired of these people.

The 90+ year old farming blokes here in Norfolk tell me ‘nothinhg has changed that wont come right again. It always has and it always will.’ and believe me they know.

In order to show my support for Ringpeace, I set fire to some tractor tyres and ate a roast dolphin.

@ Old Holborn

In order to show my support I changed all my lightbulbs back into element bulbs, bought an ivory backscratcher from ebay, printed out all my emails and then drove home in my new hummer to read them.

PS:

Tom, have a word will you?

If Ringpiece can get on the roof unhindered to promote Milliband’s Green Agenda but Al Queda can’t, people will talk.

Know what I mean?

@ Old Holborn

I’d hate to look arabic and have to walk anywhere near parliament. There’s got to be at least 50% chance of getting shot.

Electric cars are actually worse than diesel. The process of turning fossil fuels into electricity is quite inefficient, but the real problem is then transmission (a lot of energy gets lost that way). The only advantage is that the pollution is not produced in the cities with electric cars.

Back to the topic at hand. Perhaps if those policemen were back on the beat they could be hunting down those asylum seekers and not bothering about those naughty protesters. There’s a job for you at the Daily Mail if you need it you know.

@ Big Al

The police (actually the immigration service, but who’s counting) don’t bother tracking down asylum seekers any more.

Most of the time they raid factories and fruit farms as they will usually find dozens of “illegals” in one go.

For those that stay below the radar (working for small businesses, working in shops or self-employed, etc) there is effectively zero chance of being caught and deported.