IT’S ALWAYS nice to receive compliments for my blogging. The only problem is that I generally receive them from Tories, rather than from fellow party members.
The latest case in point is the recently-founded Tory Tavern blog, who writes:
So, a fantastic few days blogging from Mr Harris. The landlord has one remaining nagging thought, though. With his common-sense, honest and open approach to politics, his rejection of electoral reform, his commitment to unionism, his criticism of Labour plans to raise taxes on the rich, his dislike of political correctness and his view that Gordon Brown should resign…is he sure he’s in the right party?
So let’s tackle those points head-on.
First off, I don’t think that having a “common-sense, honest and open approach” to politics is or should be the preserve of any one party; there are bloggers from all the main parties who subscribe to those values – and plenty who don’t.
Support for the First-Past-The-Post electoral system is still the mainstream view among MPs and activists in the Labour Party, so supporting it publicly is hardly taking a “maverick” stance.
As far as unionism is concerned, the Labour Party is far more committed to the Union than the modern Conservative Party is. A Tory party committed to making Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish MPs second class members of the Commons would be a greater threat to the United Kingdom than the SNP could ever be.
On taxes, Tony Blair and New Labour won the confidence of the electorate by persuading the country that Labour no longer believed in taxing for its own sake, that if they have to be raised at all, it should be done reluctantly, as a last resort, and to fund a specific spending commitment. That’s what I – and the vast majority of Labour MPs – still believe.
My frustration with political correctness is actually illustrated by Tory Tavern’s citing of it as evidence that I’m in the wrong party: why on earth must the Labour Party allow itself to fall into the trap of defending it? I haven’t met a single person – of any party or none – who can defend the more witless examples of political correctness. The young boy sent home with a note to his parents revealing that he had uttered anti-German sentiments while his class was being taught about the Second World War? The student who was arrested and forced to spend the night in the cells for calling a police horse gay? And don’t even start me on “Winterfest” or “NeutralFest” or “Let’sMakeSureNo-oneCanPossiblyBeOffendedByReferencesToChristianityFest” or whatever. No-one defends that kind of nonsense, and if Labour Party members do, I’ve never met them.
To the above list of indictments, I should ask for my views on benefit dependency and single parents and my robust approach to asylum to be considered as more “offences” to be taken into account. These have been portrayed by the media as being “anti-Labour” or at least “anti-Left wing”. In fact, on the single parents issue, while I did receive some messages of support from Conservative colleagues in the Commons, I was overwhelmed by the support I received from Labour colleagues who told me it was “about time” someone said what I said.
I don’t specifically adopt these views in order to drive up traffic on this blog or to earn praise from right wingers. I believe that the views I hold are shared not only by the vast majority of what most people understand to be Labour’s “core vote”, but by the vast majority of the wider electorate. And I espouse those views because (a) I believe they are right, and (b) I believe Labour would be more popular if more of its representatives at every level were to voice them.
And that’s the whole point: I want Labour to win the general election and to stay in government, because that, in my opinion, would be in the best interests of my country and my constituents.
So, yes, Tory Tavern, I am in the right party. And if I had my way, your party would have a longer term in opposition ahead of you than behind you.














Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:24 am
The boy stood on the burning deck, whence all but he had fled.
Twit.
(Spike Milligan)
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:30 am
Sorry Tom, I’ve been away for a while, but I’m back home now and will make a special effort to send you more compliments in the near future. I might even make it onto your blogroll eventually!
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:34 am
Good stuff, but you haven’t answered the point about the leadership. You have been critical of Brown in the past. Is it still your view that Labour would be better served under a new leader this side of the election?
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:42 am
I said all I was going to say on the subject at the time.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:58 am
The landlord is grateful for the response, Tom! He suspected you wouldn’t have a sudden epiphany and cross sides immediately!
One thing – the blog’s actually called Tory Tavern. If you had a moment, would you mind changing that? Cheers.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 12:02 pm
Done. Sorry about that.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 12:04 pm
I very much doubt that Brown is the best leader Labour could have.
I think the argument is how many seats will he lose us by staying, compared to the seats lost by the upheaval of a new leader this late in the cycle.
There is always excitement and attention generated by an internal election for a new leader.
I’d go for the latter and risk it. But there’s not a huge amount in it.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 12:07 pm
Sorry, but that is not good enough. Why aren’t you and other MPs prepared to rise to the challenge.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 12:20 pm
Those are your views Tom and many I agree with. Regretably they are not the views of your party. People with any kind of views like yours as soon as it became known were dispatched to the back benches.
If you look at what you have left in your government it must make you weep, I know it does me.As for PR thnks to your party we now have Nick Griffin of the BNP represnting us in climate change and talks.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 12:31 pm
‘best interests of my country’
Scotland?
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 12:32 pm
Scotland and the UK.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 12:33 pm
I attribute the fostering of Political correctness and the Labour party as one of the cornerstones of this Government and a transient being. I take your points well Tom, but feel that you haven’t mentioned the impact that Labours beurocratic system has had on constraint of professionalism of Teachers, Doctors, the Police Force etc. I do understand much has come from Europe – but also that there are a lot of other issues involved. Labour, I feel – has tried to ‘Police’ people’s ideas too much as part of it’s social program.
I remember when the Conservatives were in power. It wasn’t good in the later years. However, at least the world made sense. Under Labour, sadly – I feel that people have become disaffected, depressed and cynical of having any power to influence their own lives. To some extent, Government intervention in areas where people should be trusted to make their own decisions has helped to make society selfish, thoughtless and indignant. Almost an ‘Its not my responsibility’ type of culture.
Don’t get me wrong. Labour’s ethos was a good one in principle. I voted for it in 1997. However, I think the political structure again needs to be re-balanced again.
Paul Hampson.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 1:23 pm
Oh come on Tom, come out of the closet. The Labour party wouldn’t dream of bullying you for being extreme right of centre. It just wouldn’t be politically correct.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 1:28 pm
@ Paul Hampson
I agree with much of your thoughtful posting.
This vague feeling that the government has somehow allowed idiocy to become the norm is difficult to counter, and may well be its downfall.
Whether it’s social measures, immigration, multiculturalism or Europe, the government, almost always for the best of reasons, finds itself on the
less sensible side of popular argument.
The people are not always wrong, even when they cannot fully articulate their distaste.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 2:07 pm
that if they have to be raised at all, it should be done reluctantly, as a last resort, and to fund a specific spending commitment. That’s what I – and the vast majority of Labour MPs – still believe.
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The vast majority????
Cobblers – utter, utter cobblers.
And as for ‘fund a specific spending commitment’. More chicanery. Every penny of tax goes into the general pot, always has, always will. Pretending otherwise is just lying to the electorate.
And as for ‘Labour to win the general election and to stay in government, because that, in my opinion, would be in the best interests of my country’.
Sweet mother – there’s not a word in the OED to describe just how badly NuLabour has failed as a government. Why on earth would anyone (outside the client state) think that the answer to anything is another Labour government.
(One of) today’s laughs! from the papers is the fact of schools that are described by the Inspectorate at the same time as ’satisfactory’ and ‘failing’.
Sounds a bit like you, really, it is clear to everyone that the government has failed but to Tom Harris it is ’satisfactory’.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 3:06 pm
PS
‘I said all I was going to say on the subject at the time.’
But Tosh it is still ‘the time’.
So, answer your followers this. Is a Labour government led by Captain Insensible *also* in the best interests of your constituents and your country vs a Conservative government led by Cameron.
A very hypothetical question of course as in the extremely unlikely event of a Labour victory the IMF would be in on the day after the election to take over the running of the country and try and return it to some semblance of solvency.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 4:35 pm
Sorry to say this, Tom, but you will be remembered for being a member of the government that buried the United Kingdom.
Political correctness now infests every area of public life and is being used, like your program of mass immigration, to alter the fabric of our society.
We used to have a ‘community’, but now we have ‘communities’. Divide and rule for maximum oppression.
I agree you seem to be honest and open, but the common sense bit is rather optimistic.
Sorry I have nothing particularly nice to say to you in these comments! Please wake up and smell the globalist takeover.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 5:30 pm
re: political cortectness
Political correctness is just politeness and non-offensiveness. It’s not calling people darkies and fags. People who criticise it pick on supposed ridiculous examples of the Daily Mail headline type that rarely if ever stand up to scrutiny.
‘Winterval’ was, for example, nothing at all to do with political correctness. That the word christmas has ever been avoided to for fear of giving offense is a myth. No one wants them which is why they never actually happen.
Criticising political correctness by repeating this sort of nonsense just gives succor to racists and bigots and misogynists. You really should know better.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 5:59 pm
Mr. Harris
I see no difference between the Tory Party and New Labour.
Not long to the General Election, doing any rebel stuff yet?
If you get back in (which I hope you don’t) then you can join the Tories in their campaign to stigmatise the poor.
You get so well with them.
Comrades in arms.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 6:35 pm
Ben
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 5:30 pm
Political correctness is just politeness and non-offensiveness.
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Not this old ‘political correctness doesn’t exist’ canard.
How about one of my favourites.
Edie McCready who runs the bus company in Balamory. Where does she take the kids for their annual free bus-day out?
The beach?
Fishing in a loch perhaps?
A walk up the hills.
No – the local Mosque, that’s where. Every Scottish island, you see, has one in completely unpolitically-correct-BBCLand.
Please don’t confuse political correctness with politeness – our language has been debased enough by your sort.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 6:44 pm
Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish MPs are already second class Tom. Your government made them so by hiving of many of their powers and responsibilities in relation to their own constituents to devolved national bodies. Removing those same powers from them in relation to their English non-constituents is entirely justified and a decade overdue.
Otherwise I entirely agree. You are far too reactionary to be a Tory.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 8:38 pm
George Laird
then you can join the Tories in their campaign to stigmatise the poor.
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Got any answers, George?
Ah yes, give them more benefits.
Sorted.
Out here (in the real world) it is quite obvious that that doesn’t work.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 8:59 pm
@James Matthews
Tom will not address the West Lothian question. Indeed, he will not even recognise it, although of course, it was a Scottish MP who asked it.
Meanwhile, as our democracy sinks into torpor and collapse, her’s how it really works.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/swiss-minarets-ban-referendum
Hey! In Switzerland, the people get to tell the government what goes, not the opposite, as now happens here.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 10:35 pm
I think the lady doth protest too much!
Seriously though, no-one can agree 100% with everything their party says. And as a Tory, I wouldn’t want to see Labour buried. Election losers next time yes but the party performs an important role.
But I would like to see the Liberals buried – they are utterly irrelevant.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 10:48 pm
I believe you Tom,
Now justify all those tax rises put through by Brown and Darling, and the hole that has been created in the private pension schemes and the national deficit
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:40 pm
Your insistence that Labour colleagues are “reluctant” to raise taxes, or that they are against political correctness (the examples are straw men) flies in the face of reality.
I never saw or heard Labour MPs, in the House or on TV criticising the 100s of tax rises, many of them hidden or simply, taxes on tax. I never saw or heard Labour MPs either in the House or on TV publicly condemning Political Correctness.
One Labour MP caused a bit of a stir a while back when he had the temerity to suggest that being a young single mother was not necessarily a good thing. And do you know what happened? The tumbleweed could be seen wafting around him in the arid desert of intellectual poverty.(Never mind what was said in private, nobody had the guts to make it an issue)
My take on your putative crisis of political identity is this: you correctly identify certain issues as above party politics. That is a very unfashionable stance to take, this close to an election.
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:57 pm
I don’t know how big Balamory is – but I would have thought that most kids there would have regular access to the beach. My children have been taken by their school to the local Mosque and I liked that they were seeing how other cultures worship. They thought it was boring, as was their trip to the Synagogue and their more frequent trips to the Cathedral. But that says more about them than the idea behind the trips.
Monday 30 November 2009 at 9:23 am
@ sammy re Edie McCreadie and the Mosque: but Balamory is not about Tobermory per se. If it was, they would have put a protesting PC Plum in a wicker man by now, as their virgin holy fool sacrifice, whilst Miss Hooley leads the townsfolk in a rousing rendition of Summer is a-coming in. Strangely enough, that old bird who plays Edie McCreadie had a minor role in The Wicker Man.
Monday 30 November 2009 at 9:58 am
Tom,
Do you think the people of Switzerland have their best interests at heart or do you think the Government of Switzerland has it’s peoples best interests at heart?
Just asking like….
Monday 30 November 2009 at 9:59 am
Tom: “A Tory party committed to making Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish MPs second class members of the Commons would be a greater threat to the United Kingdom than the SNP could ever be”
Aim of the SNP – a Scotland separate from the UK.
Aim of the tories – a tory goverenment of the UK.
Regardless of my personal feelings for the union, it is quite obvious that the SNP is a bigger threat to it than the tories, lib dems or even labour.
Monday 30 November 2009 at 10:05 am
[quote]And if I had my way, your party would have a longer term in opposition ahead of you than behind you.[/quote]
I dare say you’re right.
Monday 30 November 2009 at 11:08 am
Cathy
Sunday 29 November 2009 at 11:57 pm
I don’t know how big Balamory is – but I would have thought that most kids there would have regular access to the beach
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Alright, alright, I give up, there’s no such thing as political correctness.
… and Captain Insensible is getting on with the job and the UK economy is uniquely well-placed and the satisfactory schools that are failing are satisfactory and hospitals that give themselves 14 out of 15 for cleanliness aren’t filthy dribbling cesspools and… and… and… how many tractors have we produced this week? I forget.
@ Nicky – why can’t the rest of your posts be that sensible?
Monday 30 November 2009 at 12:02 pm
Most of your ‘witless’ examples of political correctness are urban myths or newspaper exaggerations…
Monday 30 November 2009 at 1:21 pm
@Alasdair “Most of your ‘witless’ examples of political correctness are urban myths or newspaper exaggerations…”
Not sure if that’s true or not, (since you offer no evidence), but there are plenty of examples of political correctness that are true, such as Tower Hamlets council deciding to use a different theme each year to celebrate 5th November, rather than to commemorate Guy Fawkes like the rest of the country.
Or a Grandmother being arrested for a hate crime because she complained about a gay-pride march outside her home.
Or the Sure Start Centre in Oxfordshire changing the words of Baa Baa Black Sheep, to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep.
I could go on…
Monday 30 November 2009 at 2:40 pm
Political correctness exists in every fibre of old Labour’s being.
It’s instinctive and ineradicable.
So much so that most of them call Blairites Tories in disguise.
Monday 30 November 2009 at 5:04 pm
I seem to recall that that line in that speech was a bit of spin that rapidly turned out to be a bit misleading!
What I think your blog shows is that many or even most people of goodwill have far more in common than divides them; that Brown’s “dividing lines” are largely illusionary; that the problems faced by this country urgently need to be addressed in a common sense way. Doesn’t stop this being the worst Government in history by the way!
Monday 30 November 2009 at 10:44 pm
Com Res (or is it Res Com) have produced the third reputable recent poll showing Gordon Brown’s Labour catching up with the Tories.
They had another rather good and interesting one in June, reported on Cons Home, to which I referred here:
http://quietzapple-musing.blogspot.com/2009/08/labour-44-or-conservative-42.html
I also went into other relevant statistics which showed Labour’s position was not quite as bad as Chameleon and his billionaire backers hoped.
Can anyone find the Cons Home thread? Or has it been deleted? I may have a copy if I can access the file . . .
Tuesday 1 December 2009 at 12:10 pm
How tory the Guardinid seems to have become is underlined by Mike White’s description of the recent reduction in the Tory Poll Lead from 15 to 10 points (less in one) as “slight”
” Labour has managed to close to gap slightly.”
Looks b substantial to me. A THIRD.
Had Zac Goldsmith paid IHT on his £200m he might have paid a third perhaps, after measures taken in our country’s legal system to minimise the liability on his father’s estate.
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